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As the Pandemic Recedes, Millions of Workers Are Saying 'I Quit'

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Re: As the Pandemic Recedes, Millions of Workers Are Saying 'I Quit'

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Post by adflux »

nickpp wrote: post #130
hypertele-Xii wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more of a PC guy, but yeah, pretty much. For a while. But even that gets boring at some point. Human brains are weird, man.

I really wonder dude, I really wonder. The older I get the harder I find to be excited by shit. I do believe that if I was in the iPhone team I would've been like "another f-ing phone, why should I care?". The paycheck is pretty much all that is getting me out of bed in the morning, even if at this point I can't say I really need it anymore.

Guess its a normal part of aging, but maybe its not normal to not get excited by stuff you used to like

Re: As the Pandemic Recedes, Millions of Workers Are Saying 'I Quit'

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Post by iNane9000 »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #80
dougmwne wrote: post #11

5 years ago I hit a burnout point and took a year off work. It was a huge perspective shift. I realized that my day-to-day of a rushed commute to work, a stressful and distracting office, thimble-deep coworker relationships and a life completely orientated around doing the above was an insane waste of my short time on Planet Earth. I reoriented my life around family, remote work, flexibility and balance. My quality o…

> I figured it was just a matter of time before the resignations started flooding in The headline and the anecdote in the opening paragraph of the article are somewhat misleading. The statistics about millions of people resigning aren’t from people choosing to leave the workforce or take sabbaticals. It’s mostly people who are simply changing jobs due to the booming economy creating new opportunities and hiring press…

Similar to recent treatment of the housing boom in the media. People couldn’t afford homes before the pandemic so it’s unlikely they can now. The current market frenzy is what you expect with people moving. It’s not an increase in wealth of housing supply. It’s also heavily driven by speculation from large institutions who are capitalizing on restricted housing supply and rapid inflation. What it is not is some new era where everyone can now afford to buy a home or quit work for a year.

Re: As the Pandemic Recedes, Millions of Workers Are Saying 'I Quit'

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Post by decafninja »

srackey wrote: post #134
dougmwne wrote: post #11

5 years ago I hit a burnout point and took a year off work. It was a huge perspective shift. I realized that my day-to-day of a rushed commute to work, a stressful and distracting office, thimble-deep coworker relationships and a life completely orientated around doing the above was an insane waste of my short time on Planet Earth. I reoriented my life around family, remote work, flexibility and balance. My quality o…

And also anecdotally, every professional office worker under ~30 I know has been absolutely miserable during this remote work experience, and is yearning to get back to the office - most for a full 5 days a week.

I wonder if there are regional issues at play too.

My office is in Manhattan. It's been my observation that few people that work in Manhattan actually live in Manhattan. Nearly everyone I know of dreads having to go back to the office, and one of the primary reasons is because of the nightmare commute into the island of Manhattan via the various clogged up chokepoints.

Re: As the Pandemic Recedes, Millions of Workers Are Saying 'I Quit'

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Post by sureglymop »

HarryHirsch wrote: post #145
srackey wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And also anecdotally, every professional office worker under ~30 I know has been absolutely miserable during this remote work experience, and is yearning to get back to the office - most for a full 5 days a week.

That's baffling, haven't people got friends?

As someone in their 20s without social media, I have exactly 0 friends. I live in a central European country and everyone around me has a friend group that originated during their childhood; they have childhood friends. I do not, mainly because throughout my time in school I switched schools a whole lot for various reasons. Over the years I've also grown quite insecure about it and anxious.

Now I also happen to not like alcohol or smoking which really reduces my chances of meeting someone my age to 0, because I don't go out to parties and such. Not that it was even possible during COVID-19.

I'm happy that I at least have supportive parents, siblings and family. But I think there are a lot of young people in my situation and many of them only have parasocial relationships, for example with Twitch streamers and YouTubers.

Homeoffice has been hard with all the distractions home has to offer and I really do miss eating lunch with coworkers. I'm going to start studying at university this fall so I'm optimistic that I might make some friends there.

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Post by bradlys »

disease wrote: post #188
rossdavidh wrote: post #88

I have often worked remotely for years, but...I'm a contractor/consultant, and a programmer. I am unemployed several months out of the year, typically, and I am always intentionally short-to-medium term where I work. I fear that many of the people demanding remote work now, will be surprised when (not if) the first layoffs come, and they find out that the person who's in the office every day is more awkward to fire t…

In my admittedly anecdotal experience, it's been a very long time since employers have had the luxury to be able to layoff software engineers.

Weird. I’ve seen it at almost every job I’ve had. Layoffs - not just firings.

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Post by the-dude »

vanderZwan wrote: post #190
the-dude wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment you are commenting on literally(yes really) starts with blaming Brexit. How you can deny that is politics and bitter emotions is literally beyond me.

Saying that Brexit is the cause of something based on one's experience with clients, expressed in a way that suggests that it did not positively or negatively affect themselves in any way, does not strike me as particularly bitter, but suit yourself.

It is phrased as 'it is your own fault' ( Y'all have to thank ). How is that not bitter.

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Post by bradlys »

willis936 wrote: post #92
mehphp wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There’s swaths of competent people abroad that are happy to take your (overpaid) place How is it overpaid? Engineers provide a lot more value than they are getting paid. If anything, people abroad are underpaid.

The answer is bigger than the question. Almost everyone in the West is overpaid because Western Society reaps the benefits of an underpaid working class on another continent. Out of sight, out of mind.

I don’t know if the west is overpaid or if it’s just that the people outside the west are underpaid. I think it’s more likely the latter.

Both can be underpaid, ya know?

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Post by Pokepokalypse »

haskellandchill wrote: post #136
kingsuper20 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Imagine living in a society where basic income is guaranteed no matter what, and even its worst places - its prison cells - compare favorably to the finest hotels of other countries." What I see are bored young males hanging out and getting in fights, not a whole generation of people learning cuneiform in their newfound free time.

I disagree, I've been learning Krav Maga in my newfound free time. Want to fight about it?

your skills are weak, old man.

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Post by jghn »

srackey wrote: post #134
dougmwne wrote: post #11

5 years ago I hit a burnout point and took a year off work. It was a huge perspective shift. I realized that my day-to-day of a rushed commute to work, a stressful and distracting office, thimble-deep coworker relationships and a life completely orientated around doing the above was an insane waste of my short time on Planet Earth. I reoriented my life around family, remote work, flexibility and balance. My quality o…

And also anecdotally, every professional office worker under ~30 I know has been absolutely miserable during this remote work experience, and is yearning to get back to the office - most for a full 5 days a week.

My own anecdote tracks. Never thought about the age correlation but most of my team are early 30s and younger. That group has been very negative about the remote experience. I'm much older and while I didn't like it at first, I'm in the camp of people who don't ever want to go back to an office. The people who are in between age-wise are a bit of a mix.

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Post by jghn »

rpmisms wrote: post #151
srackey wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And also anecdotally, every professional office worker under ~30 I know has been absolutely miserable during this remote work experience, and is yearning to get back to the office - most for a full 5 days a week.

I'm quite definitely under 30, and I just quit in order to stay remote. I'm so much more relaxed, and I can spend actual quality time with my wife and friends. I'm not sure why anyone would want to go back.

Yeah I suspect the real connection are people who look to depend on the office culture to provide a key part of their social interaction. In some cases that will track with age, but not always.
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