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Where Did the Coronavirus Come From? What We Already Know Is Troubling

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For me, the most startling line in the article is,

"Nearly every SARS case since the original epidemic has been due to lab leaks."

I wasn't aware that so many cases have been due to lab leak. This would have been valuable information at the start of the pandemic.

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post #9

What a difference a year makes >“The Discussion Is Basically Over”: Why Scientists Believe the Wuhan-Lab Coronavirus Origin Theory Is Highly Unlikely >Trump and Mike Pompeo’s favorite blame-China theory makes great propaganda—but dubious science. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/why-scientists-belie...

This insane gaffe should be taught in schools, and the driver of these articles and organizer of these facts should be found and studied.

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For me, the most startling line in the article is, "Nearly every SARS case since the original epidemic has been due to lab leaks." I wasn't aware that so many cases have been due to lab leak. This would have been valuable information at the start of the pandemic.

You weren't allowed to have that information at the start of the pandemic because, without the guiding hand of the media, you might have misinterpreted it and come to a then-racist conclusion.

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post #6

But I thought le evil orange man said it came from a lab, and therefore it must be false and debunked? That’s what The Washington Post told me to think last year.

Please don’t do this here. I see you are new but its not a comment that adds anything to the discussion and is not discourse that is welcome on HN.

What about my comment doesn’t add to the discussion?

I find it pretty thought provoking that mainstream news said the Wuhan Lab Theory was conclusively debunked as false, and now there has been a complete narrative shift.

Some, like the Washington Post, have actually gone back and retroactively edited their articles from that time period to hide this fact.

It’s very telling that my earlier comment was flagged.

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post #6

But I thought le evil orange man said it came from a lab, and therefore it must be false and debunked? That’s what The Washington Post told me to think last year.

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped.” - 1984

"...Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."

Re: Where Did the Coronavirus Come From? What We Already Know Is Troubling

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post #7
post #6

But I thought le evil orange man said it came from a lab, and therefore it must be false and debunked? That’s what The Washington Post told me to think last year.

Please don’t do this here. I see you are new but its not a comment that adds anything to the discussion and is not discourse that is welcome on HN.

It does add to the discussion. The Orange Man raised many good points which people gaslighted the public about. Hydrocloriquine for one. Drs determined when used correctly it is one of the more effective agents.

Re: Where Did the Coronavirus Come From? What We Already Know Is Troubling

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For me, the most startling line in the article is, "Nearly every SARS case since the original epidemic has been due to lab leaks." I wasn't aware that so many cases have been due to lab leak. This would have been valuable information at the start of the pandemic.

You weren't allowed to have that information at the start of the pandemic because, without the guiding hand of the media, you might have misinterpreted it and come to a then-racist conclusion.

I had all of this information, most of it from a little known "quarantined" subreddit. Luckily reddit didn't outright ban it for so many users proposing the "misinformed" lab leak theory. There was a lot of random/fake info but there was also very accurate information which was outright banned everywhere.

and meanwhile I was watching the circus in the media, and wasn't allowed to even spread this "misinformation"

Seriously, if the tech companies are going to censor, they should at least get the facts right, over something serious enough to cost lives.

Re: Where Did the Coronavirus Come From? What We Already Know Is Troubling

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post #9

What a difference a year makes >“The Discussion Is Basically Over”: Why Scientists Believe the Wuhan-Lab Coronavirus Origin Theory Is Highly Unlikely >Trump and Mike Pompeo’s favorite blame-China theory makes great propaganda—but dubious science. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/why-scientists-belie...

This insane gaffe should be taught in schools, and the driver of these articles and organizer of these facts should be found and studied.

I think everyone is quite aware of the driving force behind these ‘gaffes.’

Re: Where Did the Coronavirus Come From? What We Already Know Is Troubling

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don’t do this here. I see you are new but its not a comment that adds anything to the discussion and is not discourse that is welcome on HN.

It does add to the discussion. The Orange Man raised many good points which people gaslighted the public about. Hydrocloriquine for one. Drs determined when used correctly it is one of the more effective agents.

It's hydroxychloroquine, and it only looked good in poorly controlled studies, like the Henry Ford study where the hydroxychloroquine arm was also given steroids.

And answer me this: if hydroxychloroquine was so effective, why didn't Trump's tremendous doctors give it to him when he got covid?

Re: Where Did the Coronavirus Come From? What We Already Know Is Troubling

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post #10
post #6

But I thought le evil orange man said it came from a lab, and therefore it must be false and debunked? That’s what The Washington Post told me to think last year.

The “orange man” as trump is called in the comment latched onto various utter speculations and tried to use them to absolve any responsibility to our poor preparation and response to the virus. And used it more to further a racist culture war than doing anything constructive. So yes, at a time when it was pure speculation used for a harmful agenda, the “orange man” was grossly irresponsible. And he acted like if it w…

Trump’s stance on a particular fact should have zero correlation on the reporting of that fact- that it does, is an indictment of a whole industry.
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