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Rally, a novel privacy-first data sharing platform

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Re: Rally, a novel privacy-first data sharing platform

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So they don't have enough manpower to maintain features people actually want (like the JavaScript toggle in settings which Chrome apparently has) but they do to make things no one will use that will get shut down in a few years?

Odds are its funded by whomever is doing the study and is unrelated the browser at all.

If that is the case then it should be done as an extension. And why would Mozilla use its brand capital on this?

Re: Rally, a novel privacy-first data sharing platform

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post #7

Whoever wrote this piece is way too close to... whatever it is Mozilla is doing here. There seems to be an assumption that users will be gleeful to throw their data at legitimate researchers from legitimate institutions doing legitimate work. What "data"? Browsing history? Identity? Something else? Why? What's in it for them? Since when was giving our data to third parties a good idea? There is literally no motivatio…

Mozilla strikes me as an organisation with too many resources for its own good. They keep pursuing these random side gigs with limited unifying theme other than an excuse to spend money.

Re: Rally, a novel privacy-first data sharing platform

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post #7

Whoever wrote this piece is way too close to... whatever it is Mozilla is doing here. There seems to be an assumption that users will be gleeful to throw their data at legitimate researchers from legitimate institutions doing legitimate work. What "data"? Browsing history? Identity? Something else? Why? What's in it for them? Since when was giving our data to third parties a good idea? There is literally no motivatio…

Mozilla strikes me as an organisation with too many resources for its own good. They keep pursuing these random side gigs with limited unifying theme other than an excuse to spend money.

Reminder that donations to Mozilla are not donations to Firefox development. The Mozilla Corp (makes Firefox) and Mozilla Foundation (gets donations) are mostly separate.

Re: Rally, a novel privacy-first data sharing platform

#46
post #5

The best way to put "privacy first" is not to share your data. This article title is arse-over-tit.

But if your knowledge tree falls in the forest, and no one hears of it, then how do the data sound? Somewhere between hermit-style hoarding and totally wide open there may be a collaborative sweet spot.

Why? Seems to me I get absolutely nothing from this other than a wink from Mozilla that my data can't identify me.

Re: Rally, a novel privacy-first data sharing platform

#47
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you provide more detail on what makes it novel?

Common research methods have significant limitations. Web crawls, for instance, usually don't realistically simulate user activity and experiences. Lab studies often involve simplified systems that don't generalize to the real world. Surveys yield self-reported data, which can be very unreliable. Rally studies, by contrast, reflect real-world user activity and experiences. In science jargon, Rally enables field studi…

Thanks for clarifying! Makes sense.

A few follow up questions:

1. Do you expect the opt-in nature of these studies to impact their findings?

2. To compensate for the voluntary nature of the studies, do you think researchers in general will still be incentivized to find data sources that are less respectful of people's privacy and don't require an opt-in to the study?

Re: Rally, a novel privacy-first data sharing platform

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post #7

Whoever wrote this piece is way too close to... whatever it is Mozilla is doing here. There seems to be an assumption that users will be gleeful to throw their data at legitimate researchers from legitimate institutions doing legitimate work. What "data"? Browsing history? Identity? Something else? Why? What's in it for them? Since when was giving our data to third parties a good idea? There is literally no motivatio…

> privacy-preserving data collection system

I hate this. Viscerally. Why, why, WHY does every “privacy first” system, platform, whatever, start with the presumption that some people should get your data and it’s just a matter of vetting the “good” groups from the “bad” groups.

No. That isn’t privacy.

No one should get my data. And it’s ridiculous that all of these companies try to position their data grabbing projects as “privacy” oriented when what they really mean is they’re not quite as invasive and/or are slightly more transparent about their data theft compared to others.

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