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Re: New type of ancient human discovered in Israel

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Post by beerandt » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 9:29 AM UTC

someperson wrote: post #5

We'll see if the inflation in ancient human species stands up to scrutiny. Here's a great TED Talk about dinosaur species being mistakenly identified because 'scientists have egos': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQa11RMCeSI&t=102s (well worth a watch, it's a great story)

Similar thing going on with all sorts of living animals.

Sequence DNA, find a population with small, but consistent mutations, declare new species, declare new species endangered because population is so small, declare a 100 mile radius refuge around population, repeat.

Re: New type of ancient human discovered in Israel

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Post by hutzlibu » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 9:34 AM UTC

nextstep wrote: post #16

yreg wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not the place for political/culture wars.

Or humor apparently

Not if the humor is as strongly political charged as the original "joke". There are plenty of other places to debate about israel and palestine. Can we here focus on ancient history?

Re: New type of ancient human discovered in Israel

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Post by sammalloy » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 9:34 AM UTC

> There are several human fossils from the caves of Qesem, Zuttiyeh and Tabun that date back to that time that we could not attribute to any specific known group of humans.

Are there any geologists or experts who can explain the difference between these caves in Israel and the ones in Europe and North America? They all seem incredibly different.

Re: New type of ancient human discovered in Israel

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Post by iconoklastik » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 9:37 AM UTC

Here in Palestine. Fixed it.

Abrahamists are always attempting to skew science to support their biblical agenda.

#BDS

Fuck israel

Re: New type of ancient human discovered in Israel

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Post by KingOfCoders » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 9:41 AM UTC

CyberRabbi wrote: post #12

flyinglizard wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which Indian tribe’s land have you built your high ground on?

I don’t understand this comment. What does Indian tribal land have to do with the naming of this discovery?

What I assume the poster meant - I might of course be wrong - is that the in the US discoveries are named after the location names of white settlers, not by the names of the locations that the people called them, that the white settlers killed to take the land. e.g. someone says "Discovered in New York" instead of how the land was named by the Native Americans who lived there and were killed.

Re: New type of ancient human discovered in Israel

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Post by gelert » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 9:44 AM UTC

CyberRabbi wrote: post #12

flyinglizard wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which Indian tribe’s land have you built your high ground on?

I don’t understand this comment. What does Indian tribal land have to do with the naming of this discovery?

I think the reply is meant to be a critique of the above comment.

They assumed that the first commentator was American, so said that given America entirely consists of land inhabited by displaced peoples (American Indians) that it's hypocritical to criticise Israel, which partially consists of that kind of land, for the same injustice.

Re: New type of ancient human discovered in Israel

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Post by stormdennis » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 10:13 AM UTC

KingOfCoders wrote: post #25

CyberRabbi wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t understand this comment. What does Indian tribal land have to do with the naming of this discovery?

What I assume the poster meant - I might of course be wrong - is that the in the US discoveries are named after the location names of white settlers, not by the names of the locations that the people called them, that the white settlers killed to take the land. e.g. someone says "Discovered in New York" instead of how the land was named by the Native Americans who lived there and were killed.

Manhattan is derived from a native American phrase or word as far as I know.

Re: New type of ancient human discovered in Israel

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Post by stormdennis » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 10:16 AM UTC

flyinglizard wrote: post #11

stormdennis wrote: post #9

Nesher largely occupies the site of the Palestinian village Balad Al-Sheikh which was depopulated in 1948. So Balad Al-Sheikh Ramla , maybe?

Which Indian tribe’s land have you built your high ground on?

I don't believe the US went in for a systematic renaming/demolition of places as Israel did. Balad Al-Sheikh has a history going back to the 16th century, Nesher to only 1924.

Also I'm not American.

Re: New type of ancient human discovered in Israel

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Post by stormdennis » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 10:18 AM UTC

gelert wrote: post #26

CyberRabbi wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t understand this comment. What does Indian tribal land have to do with the naming of this discovery?

I think the reply is meant to be a critique of the above comment. They assumed that the first commentator was American, so said that given America entirely consists of land inhabited by displaced peoples (American Indians) that it's hypocritical to criticise Israel, which partially consists of that kind of land, for the same injustice.

To be accurate, Israel also entirely consists of that kind of land.

Re: New type of ancient human discovered in Israel

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Post by Zenst » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 10:35 AM UTC

tut-urut-utut wrote: post #20

nextstep wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or humor apparently

Humour needs to be funny.

Agreed and a lighter humoristic approach would of been word-play and one example would be:

   Perhaps they should rename the Palaeolithic era too the Israeolithic era and bring it more in-line with current naming conventions.