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Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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But why? I can think of exactly 0 Android apps I would like to run on my Windows desktop (and I've been an Android user since the original Samsung Galaxy S). Is this really something people crave to do?

Considering nobody uses the word "program" anymore and it's app this and app that...

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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This has been possible on ChromeOS (i.e. Chromebooks) for a while now and the experience is subpar. Most apps are not designed for desktop and the UX just feels unrefined. This could be fixed, of course, but on the app creators' side. However, weirdly enough, VPN Android apps work just fine at a system level on Chromebooks. Go figure...

> Most apps are not designed for desktop and the UX just feels unrefined. This is still better than having to use an emulator or not being able to use the app at all.

There are some exceptions, like Outlook - it works in Desktop mode just fine.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Yeah? Tiktok's app is way better than the website. Snapchat etc doesn't even have a usable website.

I believe the question is why having the app on a Windows machine if the phone is usually nearby.

Typing on real keyboard, for example, is much better than typing on a phone.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Where’s the screenshot of what user input looks like for Android on Windows? I’d love to compare those side by side to make a judgement of which looks more janky.

I believe what they are saying (hoping for?) is that since there are many Windows compatible laptops with touchscreens (unlike macbooks), Android app experience on them might be better.

Ah, perhaps.

I’m excited to see that Apple is unifying their hardware architectures across their various form factors of computing devices.

That’ll be interesting in the future.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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The article says this relies on "Intel Bridge Technology". Anyone know more about it? All I could find easily was https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/discre... Want to highlight one paragraph from that description: "Intel Bridge Technology is run-time post compiler that can be integrated into Android-in-Container to enable certain Android apps – those not written in Java or compiled to run natively…

There are few categories of apps this targets. “Clubhouse for Android” category: avant- grade apps that launch first on Android or define android platform. Nonexistent. “Median phone user ecosystem:” The TikTok Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, YouTube, Snapchat, China app ecosystem and India app ecosystem. The experience of all these is bad on Windows browsers or unavailable. ”Games”: hard to say, because Windows is a…

The strategy here for Microsoft is pretty obvious. Windows is becoming a tablet OS first and foremost. However it is at best a 3rd target for app developers, once they have finished their iOS and Android versions.

Natively supporting an Android app store allows them to get apps so users will want to buy the hardware, which in turn generates market share that gets developers interested.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Is it just me or does anyone else think this is Microsoft's first step to create it's own Android fork eventually? I have been thinking what's really keeping the "new" Microsoft outside the smartphone game? Google creating a desktop OS market share is not really on the horizon. But if Microsoft takes the right steps it might venture out to smartphones again, and gain market share this time. The HN crowd may not be th…

They wouldn't have Play Services, which gives all the power of the ecosystem. Just having a good desktop back country doesn't help anything in the mobile space, as Windows Phone showed. It also won't go without experienced hardware partners, and Samsung is already in Google's pocket, the other top dogs being Chinese, who don't look for fitting in the western markets anymore.

I always wondered if a WINE for Play Services was possible.

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I think the majority of mobile apps are very coupled to the mobile ecosystem. Or they exist to coverup the poor mobile web experience. I can use social media and messaging from any desktop web browser already. Anything geared around mobility or photography won't be very useful on a desktop. And at least a few apps just have "mobile only" as their edgy marketing strategy. I get why this is potentially useful but I can…

A big part of the reason Windows Phone failed was a lack of a good app ecosystem. Maybe they’re working their way toward a new Windows Phone that is compatible with Android apps?

Microsoft had an Android compat suite and an iOS compat suite in some of the Windows Mobile 10 betas.

They decided not to ship either one, although I don't think I ever saw an official reason.

The app ecosystem was a small part of the failure of Windows Mobile, IMHO. A larger issue was that they abandoned the low end in WM10, and that's where they were doing well in WP7 and 8. That each major version of the OS also had a new app framework was a lot of work for app developers, too. And blocking 3rd party browsers (mostly) and then making WM10 use Edge which was somehow worse than Mobile IE, when a browser is key on a platform without a lot of native apps didn't help.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Is there something similar on Linux? Would make me ditch the Apple ecosystem once and for all for Linux and Android ..

Anbox (https://anbox.io/) does seem to do this. I couldn't try this because I couldn't get it to run on my machine a few years back

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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If anything, Amazon knows this will really incentivize updating your Android app on the Amazon App Store, or bringing it there if you haven't. And that's good for us because, should the Amazon App Store become more viable for manufacturers, Google might find themselves increasingly losing control of Android, and increasingly forced to make the Play Store more competitive.

This is an absolute win-win for Microsoft and Amazon. Microsoft gets Android Apps, Amazon expands its app store and Google is shunted out of the Microsoft eco-system. I see this as an absolute brilliant thing to happen to the app ecosystem. I really hope innovation accelerates on the Amazon App store.

> Google is shunted out of the Microsoft eco-system

iOS is 54.33% of all tablets, Android is 45.57%. Microsoft, Amazon, and everyone else combined account for 0.1%

It doesn't seem like an ecosystem Google has the time to worry about.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Some years later everyone will realize that desktops are not phones and are meant to utilize more available screen space. Then everyone will come up with "revolutionary" desktop interface ideas and we here at HN will call it out that we already had these back in 90s. I am waiting for that time. Windows 10 is "phony" already and becoming more like it's built for people with low vision. I hate it's UI. I hope bringing…

I use Windows 10 every day, and I think the days of the desktop UI mattering are over. 95% of my time is in Chrome and Steam games. Windows already has split screen and that's enough for home use.

That said, I can't say how it feels at work.

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