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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by morelisp »

stevenjohns wrote: post #888
twelve40 wrote: post #612

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someone posted a nice story in a different thread - before he started going really crazy with the lab and stuff, it looks like he first wanted to get away from a couple of pending lawsuits in the States: "He was already facing a suit from a man who had tripped on his property in New Mexico. Another suit alleged that he was responsible for the death of someone who crashed during a lesson at a flight school McAfee had…

From memory, his nephew had passed in a similar way to the person in the flight. It may be the same case. I don't think he was running away from paying a settlement, I think he was running away from the guilt he felt that he had facilitated his own nephew's death. It was immediately after that that his downhill spiral began. Wired suggesting it was a financial move is just lowbrow journalism.

McAfee himself said it was a financial move at the time. https://www.fastcompany.com/1615167/plagued-lawsuits-mcafee-...

(You're roughly correct about the circumstances - his nephew was illegally piloting and crashed a plane killing himself and the passenger in McAfee's low-altitude flight program.)

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by pieter_mj »

No sarcasm : Just because you're most likely suicidal (and loudly claiming you're not), mentally unstable, cold-turkeyed and deprived of your liberty, doesn't mean that they're not out there to suicide you.

In fact, that would be the perfect cover-up. I'm not saying this is what happened, but I do believe if you're enough of a perceived threat in any shape or form you will be liquidated.

And I absolutely hate Occam's razor being applied to these circumstances.

So did he know/do or say a few things that lit up the radar? Maybe, such as for instance claming to know which person allegedly in his mind killed Epstein. Or simply because he wouldn't shut up or creating a radicalising following.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by ahartmetz »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #778
ahartmetz wrote: post #525

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Seen from over the pond in Germany: It seems like the US were (compared to the rest of the world) at their best from 1860ish to 1970ish. When they had great education for he masses, public health, technological and economic progress, a certain naive idealism, and the most comfortable middle class in the world. Things were, if not already good, pointing in the right direction. After that, selfish and cynical elites to…

If you were white maybe. Black or Native American, not so much.

No argument about that.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by birthday »

vmception wrote: post #544
azureel wrote: post #509

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Also this tweet is interesting. https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/131680121508322509... May he rest in peace.

Thats not interesting when its 9 months in advance Maybe a few weeks People arent just able to make a perpetual conspiracy indefinitely in the future, or you dont have to entertain people trying to do that I wont here He has increasingly depressing messages in an increasingly dimmed outlook and an increasing time in prison

He litteraly got a TATTOO to say he wouldn't never do this. And do you really think he would kill himself without posting a last tweet? He is either still alive and escaped out of jail, or murdered.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by bingidingi »

viro wrote: post #271
bingidingi wrote: post #235

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EU companies can do business with US companies as long as they're following the law. Thousands of companies and websites have no problem doing so.

Tell that to the companies fined for using mail chimp. You might to look up the regulatory requirements to "follow the law". when it comes to EU companies using services from US based companies. Even if the data never leaves the EU...

AFAIK They weren't ultimately fined, just warned... and it was one company.

They were warned because they were transferring email addresses to a company that falls under US Surveillance law and there weren't any relevant legal protections in place... and the company facing the fine never did any due diligence to check.

If you run a business and don't consult a lawyer about privacy laws you're taking a big risk... many countries have laws that you could easily run afoul, even other states in the US.

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Post by treloon »

pwinnski wrote: post #732
mjfl wrote: post #706

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The guys been in prison before and seemed to enjoy it, posted pictures from prison in the dominican republic which is way worse than spanish prison. The guy talked about being content a week ago, "I'm old and content with food and a bed", he felt bad for the young people who were afraid of prison. He was still able to tweet and enjoyed interacting with people. If you think he killed himself, you don't understand how…

> If you think he killed himself, you don't understand how humans work, plain and simple. Suicide doesn't involve humans working as they should, and anyone who pretends to understand suicide, or understand what motivates people to kill themselves, or believes anyone to be incapable of killing themself, is mistaken. I hope you never find out how mistaken you are.

Ok glowie. Simply trust that people wanted by or under the control of the US government will kill themselves at suspicious times, it's not something we can ever even begin to think about or understand.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by CRConrad »

tptacek wrote: post #323
brainfog wrote: post #280

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The amount of pedantry and over the top literalism in your comment gave me an aneurism.

But it didn't really give you an aneurysm, did it??? .

It was only likely to give him an aneurysm.

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Post by Natsu »

juskrey wrote: post #851
Natsu wrote: post #810

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Doesn't that quote seem odd to anyone else? I wouldn't think he had a "boss" any more being a multi-millionaire. He was certainly an odd fellow, but I wonder how much we know about the provenance of these random forum threads.

One does not come to a new country out of the blue and become a drug dealer boss

True, but it doesn't sound like he was working for anyone most of the time, he was just making some stuff for personal consumption and/or for the local brothel owner.

So I'm really confused as to why he was working a job or had a boss with all that money when it seemed like he was just experimenting with drugs and hookers.

And even then, how do we know that any of these random forum posts are even legit? It certainly seems possible--he wasn't the most stable individual--but I hate to just blindly trust something I read on an internet forum that gives me no realistic way to validate that any of this is from him.

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Post by kelnos »

purplevendetta wrote: post #870
stjohnswarts wrote: post #695

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Yes I've met a number of personable people who I completely disagreed with on politics and their actions, as long as you don't challenge their ideological stances. It's kind of like dealing with an alcoholic as long as you don't challenge their addiction everything tends to go well. It happened to me just last night on the phone. The human mind is a complex thing.

Why would you have to agree on politics to like someone? Comparing someones ideologial stance with a severe addiction is pretty messed up, dude. Are you so sure your stance is the absolute right one?

> Why would you have to agree on politics to like someone?

There are some political stances that also imply a particular moral/ethical stance. I think it'd be pretty normal to not like someone if their morals are incompatible with yours.

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