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> Could they try to block Linux installs? Linux works just fine with UEFI, that's how I have it installed on all my machines.

I think the implication is TPM 2.0 and secure boot preventing users from booting unsigned code and installing Linux.

It does, but every computer I've had with both has the ability to switch secure boot on and off.

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Putting the start menu button in the middle of the panel rather than at a corner seems to forget Fitts' Law. Is this a push to make people use hotkeys more or just bad design?

Ultrawide (21:9) and super ultrawide (32:9) are becoming more common. If you put the menu in the middle, it's more consistent no matter the aspect ratio.

It's only consistent as long as the number of icons/applications on the task bar never changes. Every time an additional program is started, the button will slide further towards the left.

With the older left-aligned positioning, users can just flick their mouse to the left corner to open the start menu, or the right corner to minimize all windows. Buttons are in the same spot every time.

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So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? This is confirmed on the Windows 11 specification site: > Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

This is a shame. I always was the odd one who put his task bar to the right, but it makes so much more sense if you have many windows open. I can scan over the titles much faster vertically. There's more space for task tray icons and I could easily add multiple rows of quick start icons in a folder. [1]

For some reason nowadays design trumps everything. I understand, it has to look good and I like how Windows 11 looks on those screenshots. But sometimes those Microsoft developers seem to forget, that with every cut feature they will annoy some users. For example, I fear the day they will finally get rid of the old Control Panel.

It's even more annoying if the change just happens because of "Design"...

[1] https://imgur.com/a/q7gOlIG

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Anyone has a good guess why Microsoft needed to bump the version? All of these updates seems something that can be easily updated to Windows 10 in several or one half year update. Is this something related to it's corporate clients or licensing services? Really can't understand why a need to create a new version with so much hype, when they've announced in the past that W10 will be the last Windows version.

For windows store I think its like hitting the reset button.

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So many questions… Will Win10 users be able to upgrade to Win11 for free or will they have to buy it? What’s the end-of-life date for Win10 now? Will the minimum hardware requirements be increased? Will this be used as an opportunity to make backwards-compatibility-breaking improvements? Are they actually going to fix the whole UI or just 80% of it and leave the remaining 20% as sedimentary layers of previous UIs? An…

Free. 2025. Yes, 32-bit CPUs are out. I guess with 32-bit mode so goes 16-bit support? Probably not to the last two?

IIRC 16 bit support was dropped with 8 or 10?

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Android does not require a Google account, I’m not sure about Apple and iOS but I think also not?

But if you want get android app from playstore, you still need google account. Same for iOS, and it's even worst than android, since you can't sideload apps

@cronix, @BiteCode_dev, @gruez: I know we can sideload, but it's inconvenient. Fdroid have limited number of apps, and store like apkpure is security risk. Most of regular people just get an Google account.

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safari/iMessage/Facetime/Maps or every default app on iOS? or any preinstalled and uninstallable app on Android?

I don't use any of safari/iMessage/Facetime/Maps and, gladly, they are sitting quietly in the corner. Don't think Teams stuff will behave like that

Skype does in Windows 10

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I'm not a Windows person but recently had to go through the setup process on my parents' newly purchased desktop machine. As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number (I don't own a phone), I had to do some digging--- all just to creat…

iirc it is possible, but I recall you needed to click unobvious buttons or just do it while offline and connect only after that

It used to be a sneaky button, but last time I installed there was no way to do it without disconnecting from the Internet. If you're connected, you are not presented an option to create a local account, even in a way that's hard to find.

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Putting the start menu button in the middle of the panel rather than at a corner seems to forget Fitts' Law. Is this a push to make people use hotkeys more or just bad design?

With huge monitors becoming the norm, having important click targets aligned to corners makes little sense.

The only people using ultrawide monitors (techy people) are the same ones that use the windows hotkey and search, press enter. No mouse movement needed. The UI scale can be changed as well if we are talking about size and not aspect ratio.

Edit: Alt+Tab too.

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> "Microsoft is also integrating Microsoft Teams directly into Windows 11, for both consumers and commercial users." Have they not learned from the legal backlash with IE back in the day?

Not really different than Apple including iMessage and Facetime.
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