Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11 • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by KaoruAoiShiho » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:56 PM UTC

moogly wrote: post #96

But why? I can think of exactly 0 Android apps I would like to run on my Windows desktop (and I've been an Android user since the original Samsung Galaxy S). Is this really something people crave to do?

Yeah? Tiktok's app is way better than the website. Snapchat etc doesn't even have a usable website.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by ww520 » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:56 PM UTC

Flutter and Dart would have more reach with this adoption on Windows 11.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by wly_cdgr » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:56 PM UTC

moogly wrote: post #96

But why? I can think of exactly 0 Android apps I would like to run on my Windows desktop (and I've been an Android user since the original Samsung Galaxy S). Is this really something people crave to do?

To kill Chromebooks

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by actuator » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:57 PM UTC

moogly wrote: post #96

But why? I can think of exactly 0 Android apps I would like to run on my Windows desktop (and I've been an Android user since the original Samsung Galaxy S). Is this really something people crave to do?

There are platforms that debut on phones first and either are limited to phones or launch way later on web. WhatsApp for example was a phone only thing for such a long time.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by commoner » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:59 PM UTC

jacob019 wrote: post #91

poisonborz wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They wouldn't have Play Services, which gives all the power of the ecosystem. Just having a good desktop back country doesn't help anything in the mobile space, as Windows Phone showed. It also won't go without experienced hardware partners, and Samsung is already in Google's pocket, the other top dogs being Chinese, who don't look for fitting in the western markets anymore.

Not exactly. Play services/GCM is the push notification system on Android. Even on my completely degoogled phone I have to use microG to support push notifications from google's servers because every app developer has hardcoded their app to use GCM. It doesn't have to be that way. An alternate push notification service with a client alternative could be made available. Developers and users could start using it. Ideal…

Amazon Appstore (used for Microsoft's Android integration in Windows 11) uses Amazon Device Messgaing (ADM) instead of Google's Firebase Cloud Messgaing (FCM) for push notifications. A FCM receiver is built into Google Play Services to enable push notifications for Play Protect certified Android devices, but ADM is a viable alternative for Amazon and Microsoft as long as developers tailor and submit apps to the Amazon Appstore.

https://developer.amazon.com/docs/adm/overview.html

Gotify and OpenPush are open source push notification solutions, both in the beginning stages of development:

- Gotify: https://gotify.net/

- OpenPush: https://bubu1.eu/openpush/

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by loudtieblahblah » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 6:02 PM UTC

moogly wrote: post #96

But why? I can think of exactly 0 Android apps I would like to run on my Windows desktop (and I've been an Android user since the original Samsung Galaxy S). Is this really something people crave to do?

Same reason you can run Linux on windows.

They don't want you to go to another platform for anything.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by jimlikeslimes » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 6:05 PM UTC

moogly wrote: post #96

But why? I can think of exactly 0 Android apps I would like to run on my Windows desktop (and I've been an Android user since the original Samsung Galaxy S). Is this really something people crave to do?

I agree with the sentiment. The only thing I can think of are certain mobile only banking apps. Maybe an SMS messaging app would be useful? Slim pickings from my quick scan of my phone.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by rbanffy » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 6:06 PM UTC

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #101

moogly wrote: post #96

But why? I can think of exactly 0 Android apps I would like to run on my Windows desktop (and I've been an Android user since the original Samsung Galaxy S). Is this really something people crave to do?

Yeah? Tiktok's app is way better than the website. Snapchat etc doesn't even have a usable website.

I believe the question is why having the app on a Windows machine if the phone is usually nearby.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by fulafel » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 6:09 PM UTC

NelsonMinar wrote: post #8

The article says this relies on "Intel Bridge Technology". Anyone know more about it? All I could find easily was https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/discre... Want to highlight one paragraph from that description: "Intel Bridge Technology is run-time post compiler that can be integrated into Android-in-Container to enable certain Android apps – those not written in Java or compiled to run natively…

Probably the same binary translation tech that was used in Intel based android phones back when Intel made a push for that.

Re: Microsoft is bringing Android apps to Windows 11

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Post by wly_cdgr » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 6:09 PM UTC

This is great. It heads off ChromeOS and makes the Surface hybrids even more attractive than they already are, which is no mean feat. Once this is out the Surface Books will cover basically all use cases at least decently. It'll be great to have cross op with their new foldable Android phones, too. Those machines are an absolute joy

Microsoft really killing it since Nadella took over