Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

Post by rootusrootus » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:24 PM UTC

ethagnawl wrote: post #296

rootusrootus wrote: post #221

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I could have gotten the same by staying in the military 20 years, without the headache that comes with being a cop. At least where I live, you need (or needed, it could have recently changed) a bachelor's degree to become a police officer, and it pays 53K per year. It doesn't seem like a great gig to me, at least financially.

> It doesn't seem like a great gig to me, at least financially. To each their own, of course, but compared to minimum wage or slightly more in retail/pumping gas/whatever, I could see how $53K (to start; before overtime) could be pretty compelling. Also, FWIW, it looks like Connecticut and New York (my points of reference) do not require a bachelors degree -- only a HS diploma or GED.

Post by treis » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:30 PM UTC

theossuary wrote: post #219

treis wrote: post #125

I don't think enough people are talking about the huge change in the crime landscape. Here in Atlanta, violent crime is up 50, 60% while arrests are down 40%. We're down hundreds of cops and morale is terrible. Cops aren't doing their jobs because they fear politically motivated prosecution. And for good reason given that a handful of them faced politically motivated prosecution. We're still below the worst days of v…

I'm going to call BS on this. So many sensationalist stories were written about how there's "a spike in crime," but they're comparing this year to last year! Of course there was a spike in crime, last year there was a pandemic and national lockdown. Crime shifted to online and domestic, and now that the country is opening back up it's shifting back. Take a look at the actual reported felony offenses and you'll see th…

Post by dang » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:38 PM UTC

alecb wrote: post #210

Jtsummers wrote: post #102

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But it's a reason to choose your words carefully. "Defund the Police" is very easy to interpret as "abolish" or "practically abolish". Which means it's very easy to twist even the less extreme politicians' and activists' meaning toward that end. This sets them up for abuse from their opposition who then cost them possible supporters. The fact is, many people on the right wouldn't mind if police were a little less of…

When did Hacker News become so tediously and odiously consumed with "moderate voices," which 99% of the time is just self-consumed owners of capital who have a fervent interest in maintaining the status quo.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:44 PM UTC

kspacewalk2 wrote: post #10

Sounds like 'defund the police' is stupid, self-defeating sloganeering that makes no sense given what its apparent settled-upon meaning (only settled upon many months after becoming popular).

Post by dfxm12 » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

WealthVsSurvive wrote: post #303

dfxm12 wrote: post #292

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I always am asked when I say we should reduce policing budgets, "have you ever needed police?" In my experience, they've always been either so late that myself and neighbours have had to get involved in breaking up a rape / other violent situations, or just completely useless when I've needed them for paperwork related stuff, i.e. credit card fraud Right. I don't like how the article conflates a rise of crime with co…

There's a concentrated corporate media propaganda effort in effect right now to conflate the rise in crime with the outright rejection of US police powers by the general populace.