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Introducing Windows 11

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Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by unicornporn »

Closi wrote: post #119
unicornporn wrote: post #15

So, yet another level of UI inconsistencies[1]. [1] https://ntdotdev.wordpress.com/2021/02/06/state-of-the-windo...

One post says this, while another says > The only real question is, will I still be able to get to the Network card configuration page that's been the same for the last 15-20 years. [I use it every day and don’t want them to make it into some simplified screen] Microsoft truly can’t win! One person praises it for being ugly while another for its beauty, while another criticises the central alignment of the taskbar an…

> will I still be able to get to the Network card configuration page that's been the same for the last 15-20 years

Just pull the band aid fast. Can't adjust the UI for inconsistencies in long time users muscle memory. They will adjust to a consistent UX.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by Koshkin »

captainmuon wrote: post #110
haolez wrote: post #12

Windows nowadays feels like a carefully crafted piece of software built by brilliant engineering and UX teams that, just before release, gets crapped all over by ads teams with annoyances and dark patterns. It must be frustrating to work in the former.

When people complain about ads in Windows I wonder if they are seeing a different version than I am. Maybe it is the difference between US and EU or Home and Pro versions? They do place links to third party games in the start menu upon installation. And they also inform about first party services where it makes sense (like OneDrive in Explorer, and Office365 when trying to edit a Word file). I wouldn't consider the f…

Edge is good but creepy, and you can't get rid of it anymore.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by TheCapn »

cblconfederate wrote: post #68
zxzax wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think so, the studies I've seen actually show the number of touchscreen devices is growing, and desktop PCs are shrinking.

but how are their sales doing? given the kind of apps that run on a PC, i think the touchscreen is just a gimmick that is barely used. Windows programs are just not made for tablets, and will never be

> i think the touchscreen is just a gimmick that is barely used.

I'll just say that my laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga) has a touchscreen and I love it. Every laptop I buy from here out will be a touchscreen merely because the ability to reach up while I type and just tap where i want my mouse to go next is such a better system than working with a nipple or trackpad.

I think as laptops with touchscreens become more affordable lots of people will change across. When i'm forced to work on my work laptop without KB&M, I really miss the ability to touch my screen instead of working with the god awful trackpad.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by kgraves »

valine wrote: post #191
distrill wrote: post #166

Everyone jokes about it finally being "the year of the linux desktop", but a few years ago that actually did happen to my circle. Between a mac for work and linux at home, I actually haven't touched windows in a number of years at this point, and interestingly, neither have a reasonable number of the technical people I interact with. Of the nontechnical people around me, many of them have transitioned to primarily us…

I've been running Linux on my personal desktop for years now. Unless you want to play games or require it for work I'm not sure what advantages windows really has anymore. Linux is noticeably faster, has no ads, and is Unix based.

Windows also has Linux now.

I can play Windows games and use Linux on Windows (WSL)

I don’t see the point of running Linux distros on bare metal anymore.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by ElViajero »

NmAmDa wrote: post #22

> The web was born and grew up on Windows I think CERN engineers while working on web and www protocol were using unix as windows was not even there yet. https://home.cern/science/computing/birth-web

> The web was born and grew up on Windows

For many home users that is a reality, even if it is not historically accurate. And, more importantly, I think that highlights the current position of Windows.

In the 90s and 2000s, Windows was synonymous with computing, the office and the Internet. Nowadays, Android and iPhone are the point of contact with the world for most people. Windows has lost that position.

What I read is "The web was born and grew up on Windows" ... and we want Windows to be its future. That is what, I think, it follows from that statement and the goal of Windows 11.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by [deleted] »

tyingq wrote: post #39
kadomony wrote: post #7

I mean.. The taskbar seems like a Dock now. The interface seems very Apple Finder-esque now. I feel like they're just aligning with macOS now. Not that I'm complaining, the video and the interface all are sexy.

I'm not a fan. A centered dock does look pretty, but to me it's not as intuitive as a left-aligned screen. Especially since you would be navigating to the "Start" menu a lot. Getting my mouse bottom left is more natural than "some random offset of dead bottom center". I can't tell if the icons get larger as you hover. That sort of magnifies this problem, as the start button would shift left as other icons are highlig…

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Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by CyberRabbi »

coder543 wrote: post #13
DrNuke wrote: post #9

> Windows 11 will be available through a free upgrade for eligible Windows 10 PCs and on new PCs beginning this holiday. Wow!

> this holiday Which holiday? Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Year, Labor Day... Fourth of July? Maybe Halloween would be appropriate, given how scary any major Windows upgrade is to enterprise orgs. If they said "this holiday season ", that would probably mean December timeframe, but they don't say that. They repeat this confusing reference later on: > The free upgrade will begin to roll out to eligible Windows 10 PCs…

This was unclear to me as well. “This holiday” is not a phrase I’ve ever really heard in casual conversation or in the media register. I know the British “go on holiday” but that means vacation.

Their PR/marketing department dropped the ball on this specific phrase. At the same time it seems that marketing department slip ups are common these days.

If they mean Christmas time, I.e. December or winter, they should just say December or winter. That would be more clear.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by poisonborz »

I had a really hard time watching the presentation, regardless of the features presented. Panos Panay continously referred to Windows as "the product", they presented years-old feature like multi-desktop, and the maybe biggest news, Android apps, was just mentioned as side info.
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