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Introducing Windows 11

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Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by valine »

distrill wrote: post #166

Everyone jokes about it finally being "the year of the linux desktop", but a few years ago that actually did happen to my circle. Between a mac for work and linux at home, I actually haven't touched windows in a number of years at this point, and interestingly, neither have a reasonable number of the technical people I interact with. Of the nontechnical people around me, many of them have transitioned to primarily us…

I've been running Linux on my personal desktop for years now. Unless you want to play games or require it for work I'm not sure what advantages windows really has anymore. Linux is noticeably faster, has no ads, and is Unix based.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by Koshkin »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #112
tehbeard wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Idk, it feels like the UX team has been hitting the whiskey, and the UI team slapped something together to squeeze out a pay rise. And then the ads team garnishes that with terribleness. And now, the teams team wants to make it worse.

>teams team It still a little mindblowing to me that teams steals focus like it does at startup. Windows boots relatively slowly that I could be in an Outlook window or typing in a URL or whatever after a fresh reboot and then teams just steals my mouse and keyboard. I've trained myself to not do anything until teams starts (and being an electron app, it certainly takes its time) because I'm so annoyed by focus steal…

> until teams starts

Curiously (and annoyingly) enough, when I type "update" in Windows search the top result is, invariably, "Microsoft Teams."

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by yunohn »

gnomewascool wrote: post #125
yunohn wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re doing a free upgrade for W10 users, and making a new “numbered version”, to signify the significant changes. I’m not sure why this is that problematic?

> They’re doing a free upgrade for W10 users > *Look for PCs that indicate they are eligible for the free upgrade, or you can check with your retailer for more information. Are they, though?

They don’t indicate any specific requirements, so presumably it will be free for pretty much everyone with a windows 10 license.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by Deathmax »

neogodless wrote: post #94

Here's a tool to check if your PC meets the hardware requirements[0]. However, it looks like many modern systems don't have TPM 2.0 enabled in the BIOS, and will come back with "This PC can't run Windows 11" (including mine - Asus Prime X470 Pro with Ryzen 2700X, 32GB RAM, 1.5TB storage, Radeon RX 5600 XT.) [0] https://download.microsoft.com/download/1/d/d/1dd9969b-bc9a-...

Since you're running Ryzen, you can enable firmware-based TPM in your UEFI settings and you should be good to go.

Screenshot of the security processor page: https://i.imgur.com/ZWtq8EO.png

Screenshot of the PC health check: https://i.imgur.com/Rb3eZIc.png

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by [deleted] »

indigochill wrote: post #159
cblconfederate wrote: post #2

Rounded corners and touchscreens, is that windows 8/vista again? What i want from windows is speed . More and more people are going to be using them to work from home, and not on a tablet or a laptop, but on a good old desktop pc, their sales are going up. What's the rationale behind this kind of regression to terrible windows 8? Can i plz have snappier windows 7 with slightly cleaner look? > app developers can now b…

>> app developers can now bring their own commerce into our Store and keep 100% of the revenue – Microsoft takes nothing. App developers can still use our commerce with competitive revenue share of 85/15 > This is great. That's how it s done It can't go on, though. Why won't every developer turn their app "free" and use Stripe or something to shave even more off the commerce fees? Meanwhile Microsoft eats hosting/mai…

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Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by GordonS »

jjcm wrote: post #60
tyingq wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a fan. A centered dock does look pretty, but to me it's not as intuitive as a left-aligned screen. Especially since you would be navigating to the "Start" menu a lot. Getting my mouse bottom left is more natural than "some random offset of dead bottom center". I can't tell if the icons get larger as you hover. That sort of magnifies this problem, as the start button would shift left as other icons are highlig…

Left aligned makes a ton of sense until you exceed a horizontal resolution of 2k or so. The web realized this ages ago - a left aligned page doesn't work at large screen sizes. With the web it isn't as critical (often times we have a browser window smaller than our full screen), but for a taskbar that spans the full horizontal resolution, left aligned doesn't make sense when you have a 5k ultrawide. Screen sizes will…

> Left aligned makes a ton of sense until you exceed a horizontal resolution of 2k or so. The web realized this ages ago

I think you're comparing apples and oranges though - with web pages, the issues are readability and aesthetics, whereas with the taskbar it's that icons are where you expect them to be (when centred, they will move as you open more windows).

IMO, a more apt comparison is the tabs of a browser, rather than the content the browser is showing.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by smhenderson »

NmAmDa wrote: post #22

> The web was born and grew up on Windows I think CERN engineers while working on web and www protocol were using unix as windows was not even there yet. https://home.cern/science/computing/birth-web

Came here to say pretty much this; add to that Bill Gates' "the internet is just a passing fad" attitude at the time, this comes across as a complete whitewash of history. I know it's just a PR fluff piece so it's not like I'm going to write any angry letters, but I had to shake my head a bit at that.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by birthday »

indigochill wrote: post #159
cblconfederate wrote: post #2

Rounded corners and touchscreens, is that windows 8/vista again? What i want from windows is speed . More and more people are going to be using them to work from home, and not on a tablet or a laptop, but on a good old desktop pc, their sales are going up. What's the rationale behind this kind of regression to terrible windows 8? Can i plz have snappier windows 7 with slightly cleaner look? > app developers can now b…

>> app developers can now bring their own commerce into our Store and keep 100% of the revenue – Microsoft takes nothing. App developers can still use our commerce with competitive revenue share of 85/15 > This is great. That's how it s done It can't go on, though. Why won't every developer turn their app "free" and use Stripe or something to shave even more off the commerce fees? Meanwhile Microsoft eats hosting/mai…

Indirect revenue is why this is sustainable! Good on Microsoft for making the right choice here.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by olyjohn »

verst wrote: post #138
josefresco wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does macOS require an Apple account?

No, you don't have to sign in with an Apple ID, but the O/S certainly strongly encourages you to do so upon installation (or first boot of a new Mac)

It's damn near as annoying as Microsoft's harassment.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by Spivak »

contravariant wrote: post #69

> Start utilizes the power of the cloud and Microsoft 365 to show you your recent files no matter what platform or device you were viewing them on earlier Well, consider me scared.

I mean this is basically just iCloud and users generally adore it. Having deep integration to say things like “get me the document I was working on my phone” or a global browser history search is really freakin cool.
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