Live data from Hacker News

Introducing Windows 11

blogs.windows.com

161–170 of 391 posts

Re: Introducing Windows 11

#161
post #12

Windows nowadays feels like a carefully crafted piece of software built by brilliant engineering and UX teams that, just before release, gets crapped all over by ads teams with annoyances and dark patterns. It must be frustrating to work in the former.

[deleted]

Re: Introducing Windows 11

#162
post #57

The only real question is, will I still be able to get to the Network card configuration page that's been the same for the last 15-20 years? I use it daily. They've just put it behind more and more "nicce looking, but non-functional" network management UIs,.

Oh yeah.. I fucking hate Windows 10, a few weeks ago I had to check these settings and I got lost every time.. I think they've completed the web-pagization of the control panel nowadays.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

#163
post #122
post #22

> The web was born and grew up on Windows I think CERN engineers while working on web and www protocol were using unix as windows was not even there yet. https://home.cern/science/computing/birth-web

Thats not even mentioning the complete dominance of Linux in the server space for decades.

> decades

I'd like to think that, but I am not sure if that's actually true.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

#164
post #12

Windows nowadays feels like a carefully crafted piece of software built by brilliant engineering and UX teams that, just before release, gets crapped all over by ads teams with annoyances and dark patterns. It must be frustrating to work in the former.

When people complain about ads in Windows I wonder if they are seeing a different version than I am. Maybe it is the difference between US and EU or Home and Pro versions? They do place links to third party games in the start menu upon installation. And they also inform about first party services where it makes sense (like OneDrive in Explorer, and Office365 when trying to edit a Word file). I wouldn't consider the f…

Some examples: https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/17/14956540/microsoft-window...

How to disable a lot of them: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-remove-advertising-window...

Re: Introducing Windows 11

#165
post #67

Apparently the Home edition will require a Microsoft account and an internet connection. [1] Can't say I'm looking forward to this. All my Windows installations are with local accounts and I would like to keep it that way. Microsoft has already made it incredibly obnoxious to achieve this with the latest Windows 10 setups, where you have to make sure your computer is not connected to the internet to even unlock the f…

I think a recent version of Windows I had the misfortune of setting up also required a Ms account: no option for a local install. It's also possible that I'm just stupid and didn't see it, but (shrug)

The secret is you have to install Windows 10 with the network disconnected. If it doesn't detect a network connection, it lets you create a local account

Re: Introducing Windows 11

#166
Everyone jokes about it finally being "the year of the linux desktop", but a few years ago that actually did happen to my circle. Between a mac for work and linux at home, I actually haven't touched windows in a number of years at this point, and interestingly, neither have a reasonable number of the technical people I interact with.

Of the nontechnical people around me, many of them have transitioned to primarily use their phone or sometimes a tablet. The only people I know who still use windows adamantly are PC gamers, and they're all still on windows 7.

Is windows still considered the default home computing environment? Since they're totally out of mobile at this point, I wonder by what margin, and how long that will actually last. I suppose there is still the corporate world that isn't all in on on apple, that may not change for some time.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

#167
post #12

Windows nowadays feels like a carefully crafted piece of software built by brilliant engineering and UX teams that, just before release, gets crapped all over by ads teams with annoyances and dark patterns. It must be frustrating to work in the former.

When people complain about ads in Windows I wonder if they are seeing a different version than I am. Maybe it is the difference between US and EU or Home and Pro versions? They do place links to third party games in the start menu upon installation. And they also inform about first party services where it makes sense (like OneDrive in Explorer, and Office365 when trying to edit a Word file). I wouldn't consider the f…

I've seen ads on the lockscreen and on the start menu.

Also I've seen Windows updates install games without my permission. (for example once it installed Candy Crush).

The live tiles can display whatever MS wants, and sometimes what MS wanted there was ads for random applications and games.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

#168
Disappointed that it is not going to look exactly like the renderings in the video, with the physically rendered glass panes and slight perspective. I think the processing power required would be negligible compared to any modern game. Instead, it is going to be flat design with some blur and more gradients.

Remember when people were excited about a new OS version, with a new cool design? Windows 95, Windows 2000, Windows XP?

Re: Introducing Windows 11

#169
post #12

Windows nowadays feels like a carefully crafted piece of software built by brilliant engineering and UX teams that, just before release, gets crapped all over by ads teams with annoyances and dark patterns. It must be frustrating to work in the former.

well said. It’s like the table of money people look at a great finished product and then decide how they can maximize profit by injecting crapware, breaking it apart into multiple versions with varying price points (LTSB, Education, Pro, Home, Ultimate.. on and on)
Post reply on HN