Introducing Windows 11 • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by pier25 » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:35 PM UTC

kadomony wrote: post #7

I mean.. The taskbar seems like a Dock now. The interface seems very Apple Finder-esque now. I feel like they're just aligning with macOS now. Not that I'm complaining, the video and the interface all are sexy.

I agree, but File Explorer seems to be the same ugly mess...

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by haolez » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:35 PM UTC

Windows nowadays feels like a carefully crafted piece of software built by brilliant engineering and UX teams that, just before release, gets crapped all over by ads teams with annoyances and dark patterns. It must be frustrating to work in the former.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by coder543 » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:36 PM UTC

DrNuke wrote: post #9

> Windows 11 will be available through a free upgrade for eligible Windows 10 PCs and on new PCs beginning this holiday. Wow!

> this holiday

Which holiday? Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Year, Labor Day... Fourth of July?

Maybe Halloween would be appropriate, given how scary any major Windows upgrade is to enterprise orgs.

If they said "this holiday season", that would probably mean December timeframe, but they don't say that.

They repeat this confusing reference later on:

> The free upgrade will begin to roll out to eligible Windows 10 PCs this holiday and [...]

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by oblio » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:36 PM UTC

> Windows is more than just an operating system; it’s a fabric woven into our lives and in our work.

Folks, if you were thinking Windows 11 will bring less telemetry, you were wrong :-)

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by unicornporn » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:36 PM UTC

So, yet another level of UI inconsistencies[1].

[1] https://ntdotdev.wordpress.com/2021/02/06/state-of-the-windo...

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by pier25 » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:37 PM UTC

> We’re also pumped to announce that we are bringing Android apps to Windows for the first time

This is super cool, but honestly I don't see myself using any Android apps on Windows.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by magnat » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:37 PM UTC

No mentions about privacy, more bundled in apps, more "AI", more cloud connectivity. I don't know what I even expected.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by zxzax » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:38 PM UTC

cblconfederate wrote: post #2

Rounded corners and touchscreens, is that windows 8/vista again? What i want from windows is speed . More and more people are going to be using them to work from home, and not on a tablet or a laptop, but on a good old desktop pc, their sales are going up. What's the rationale behind this kind of regression to terrible windows 8? Can i plz have snappier windows 7 with slightly cleaner look? > app developers can now b…

Touchscreen laptops and convertible laptops are becoming increasingly common, they can't just ignore this market segment.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by infogulch » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:38 PM UTC

andai wrote: post #8

Strom wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The primary slowdown factor on Windows is not the filesystem itself but Windows Defender doing its scans. Just disable it and file operations will be a lot faster.

Also the search indexer.

I don't understand how the search indexer consumes so much resources, I was able to make something faster by following the ntfs journal and just keeping a full listing of files in sqlite.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by cblconfederate » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:39 PM UTC

zxzax wrote: post #18

cblconfederate wrote: post #2

Rounded corners and touchscreens, is that windows 8/vista again? What i want from windows is speed . More and more people are going to be using them to work from home, and not on a tablet or a laptop, but on a good old desktop pc, their sales are going up. What's the rationale behind this kind of regression to terrible windows 8? Can i plz have snappier windows 7 with slightly cleaner look? > app developers can now b…

Touchscreen laptops and convertible laptops are becoming increasingly common, they can't just ignore this market segment.

increasingly common but still a tiny minority of their user base. others shouldn't suffer for that