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Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#51
I didn't hear anything about availability, previews, etc. Did I miss something? I listened to the live stream in the background, and also skimmed through The Verge's article and live stream.

As a happy Windows user, this looks exciting.

I hope that there'll be a Windows Pro upgrade path that's not pocket-heavy, so I can update my 8 year old laptop, and my recent desktop without paying too much.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#52

Getting rid of tiles and similar seems like a substantial improvement, and might address part of people's complaints about Windows 10. The most important question, though: is Windows still "evergreen" with free updates, or will people have to buy Windows 11? The latter would mean we can't count on Windows systems being up to date. I was happily looking forward to the day when software could just support Windows 10 an…

yeah, no... I know a hospital that just upgraded to Windows 7...

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#53
Microsoft and Apple both said a few years back that they had "finished" their respective operating systems and were no longer going to do versioning like this.

I wonder why the change of heart?

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#54

> " Microsoft is also integrating Microsoft Teams directly into Windows 11, for both consumers and commercial users. " Not that I have any objections to Teams per se but attempting to drive adoption by bundling got Microsoft in trouble in the IE era; didn't they learn their lesson? Either way, probably the first thing I'll be doing after a fresh install of Windows 11 is uninstalling Teams.

They didn’t get in trouble for bundling IE. The got in trouble for legal and technical restrictions on using alternatives to IE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor....

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#56
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Putting the start menu button in the middle of the panel rather than at a corner seems to forget Fitts' Law. Is this a push to make people use hotkeys more or just bad design?

With huge monitors becoming the norm, having important click targets aligned to corners makes little sense.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#58

Developers can use their own payment systems, and MS take nothing. That's a bit of a kick in the teeth to Apple.

Except for, twist, if you are an Android developer. Amazon takes it's 20% cut no doubt, and to avoid the cut you need to make a native Windows app. Which actually isn't an awful incentive structure, but it's not 0% in the Store across the board.

Also it doesn't count if you make Xbox games. Microsoft still takes a cut there.

So it's 0% if it's a native Windows app and it isn't an Xbox Game. So let's just say Epic Games will still not be satisfied with this.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#59
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Not a fan of the Android apps installable and discoverable onto Windows...but through the Amazon appstore. Weird, and I'd much more prefer installing to PC from Google Play itself.

Probably not google because google wouldn't play ball. I wonder if users will be able to (easily) sideload android apps since not everything is in Amazon's app store and apps there are often not updated as often as the google play store version.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#60
Wasn't 10 supposed to be the last Windows ever? Isn't that how some of the more annoying update habits were justified to the users?

I am underwhelmed with Win 11. I did not see a feature that felt sufficiently useful to justify coming back. I am not sure, who would consciously choose it outside of business sector and gaming.

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