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Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

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Re: Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

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Lol thanks for dumb take.

Please be polite, this is not adding anything to the conversation.

Enjoy the crime wave seems similarly inflammatory and impolite, but I find HN moderation frequently falls on a certain "if you say something rude/inflammatory but phrase it a certain way it's okay" which drives me up the wall.

Re: Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

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Policing has to be one of the hardest jobs in our modern society, I honestly couldn't event imagine the stress. Imagine picking up a JIRA ticket at work and not knowing if that ticket is going to a run of the mill bug fix or something that can kill you. That's just out of the realm of possibility for an SWE but for a cop it can be any one of the calls they take on a daily basis. I've always had respect for cops becau…

Imagine just doing your best to help your local community by building some online community notice board, only for a rabid horde to start picketing your house, shouting ALL PROGRAMMERS ARE BASTARDS!!!

Programmers have none of the authority, nor the history of abuses of power that cops do.

I'm not saying all or even most cops are bastards. But there's a non-trivial number of bastards, and the harm they've done to the communities they police (and to other cops, honestly) is immense.

Re: Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

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Policing has to be one of the hardest jobs in our modern society, I honestly couldn't event imagine the stress. Imagine picking up a JIRA ticket at work and not knowing if that ticket is going to a run of the mill bug fix or something that can kill you. That's just out of the realm of possibility for an SWE but for a cop it can be any one of the calls they take on a daily basis. I've always had respect for cops becau…

Law enforcement can be dangerous but it's only #22 in occupational death rates. Lumberjacks and roofers are far more likely to get killed. https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-j...

Accidents are less psychologically stressful than violence.

Re: Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

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the middle-of-the-road opinion that defund activists hate is the "just get rid of the bad apples!" concept; that most police are good people and a few of them are bad apples. But let's say you're in the "bad apples" camp. When people like this, who are pro-police don't seem to be able to identify any bad apples whatsover , including an officer as egregious as Derek Chauvin, it points to the possibility that they don'…

Also people who says "good apple" "bad apple" don't think accessory after the fact applies to LEO's, like it would in normal situations.

Re: Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

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Policing has to be one of the hardest jobs in our modern society, I honestly couldn't event imagine the stress. Imagine picking up a JIRA ticket at work and not knowing if that ticket is going to a run of the mill bug fix or something that can kill you. That's just out of the realm of possibility for an SWE but for a cop it can be any one of the calls they take on a daily basis. I've always had respect for cops becau…

My opinion of cops has changed as i've gotten older. I used to think they had nothing better to do but bother me, the youth, but in hindsight they have too much to do and are expected to always be on, alert, and accountable. Something that takes a lot of courage. I respect them more, especially after the extremely divisive events of the past 2-3 years, riots, attacks, etc.

I've had a similar change of heart in that I value police a lot more than I did as a youth frustrated by irrational drug laws.

Unfortunately I still have experiences which prove to me that some police have nothing better to do than annoy otherwise law abiding people. It's like any group of people, there are good cops and there are bad cops.

Re: Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Law enforcement can be dangerous but it's only #22 in occupational death rates. Lumberjacks and roofers are far more likely to get killed. https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-j...

And the majority of those are traffic accidents. If you limit it to homicides it drops many more places.

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Re: Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

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Here are some facts from the City of Vallejo, a city of 120,000 people located 30 miles north-east of San Francisco: - Recently featured in ABC's 20/20 show for a "Gone Girl" case were the Vallejo Police Department accused a couple of faking a kidnapping. The woman was sexually assaulted during her kidnapping, and the VPD staged a news conference claiming the whole thing was made up. The city paid the couple millions…

Just an FYI, your first link, (abc7news), is broken - "PAGE NOT FOUND".

Re: Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Law enforcement can be dangerous but it's only #22 in occupational death rates. Lumberjacks and roofers are far more likely to get killed. https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-j...

And the majority of those are traffic accidents. If you limit it to homicides it drops many more places.

Untrue at least for USA, only 28% are road related deaths.

https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfar0020.pdf

Re: Police have been quitting in droves in the last year

#90

Guys, police are self-abolishing. Victory is within grasp. But seriously. Why is this surprising? This is a completely rational reaction of people who feel they're being unfairly demonized as a group despite most of them being professional and doing their jobs the best they can with the training and incentives they're given. Enjoy the crime wave.

>Guys, police are self-abolishing.

Do you think 2021 will end with less police in uniform than 2020? Do you think 2020 had less police in uniform than 2019?

Of course not. This is one of those "trend" stories that is basically inventing copy. Find isolated examples and propose a trend.

But if a police officer feels vilified or unfairly treated, blame the officers who grossly abuse the power society gave them, not the public. Blame unions and the knee-jerk circle-the-wagon attitude that defends these bad apples. If a group abides by and supports the bad apples, they are all bad apples.

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