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Easy to install shields like this one from catshield https://catshield.com/ can be a somewhat effective deterrent given the thieves have to be able to remove it quickly without making noise. Also hybrids are more targeted for cat theft because they have more of the metals than normal cars to compensate for frequent engine stops and starts from cold.
The local metal scrapyards are far too lenient. They don’t bat an eye at someone bringing in stolen air conditioning condensers (they can even be brand new) You should have to have the tittle for the car to bring a converter in, since it’s a federal offense to remove them.
Then how would we expect a legitimate mechanic to replace one?
Cat theft would be a $200 problem ($50 for the cat, $150 for someone to put it in there) on the order of a cracked windshield instead of a $2k problem if CARB would pull its head out of it's butt and stop caring about what cat you put on what as long as it sniffs within spec at the tailpipe. I'm not condoning theft but CA state policy is a large part of why this issue hurts as bad as it does.
But aside, would you really be okay going back to the days of photochemical smog choking away your sunlight and skyrocketing rates of asthma and acid rain dissolving your ancestor's gravestones??
Federal law requires the catalytic converters. Everyone is definitely better off for them.
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If you want to defund the police, how can you possibly prioritize catalytic converter theft, a non-violent crime? Aren’t non-violent crimes what are being de-prioritized?
By reinvesting the excess of money invested in the police into improving society for people, so that less people need to steal.
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If you want to defund the police, how can you possibly prioritize catalytic converter theft, a non-violent crime? Aren’t non-violent crimes what are being de-prioritized?
By reinvesting the excess of money invested in the police into improving society for people, so that less people need to steal.
There are plenty of poorer cities where the police have been involuntarily "defunded" by NYC or SF funding standards and they don't have the rampant petty crime that many west coast cities seem to.
Defunding the police isn't the problem. IMO a stretched thin PD is a well behaved PD. The problem seems to be related to all the policy baggage that comes with the "defund the police" crowd.
Cat theft would be a $200 problem ($50 for the cat, $150 for someone to put it in there) on the order of a cracked windshield instead of a $2k problem if CARB would pull its head out of it's butt and stop caring about what cat you put on what as long as it sniffs within spec at the tailpipe. I'm not condoning theft but CA state policy is a large part of why this issue hurts as bad as it does.
Cat install costs way more than that. But aside, would you really be okay going back to the days of photochemical smog choking away your sunlight and skyrocketing rates of asthma and acid rain dissolving your ancestor's gravestones?? Federal law requires the catalytic converters. Everyone is definitely better off for them.
Around here they're ~1hr of shop labor plus the cost of the cat (the latter being like $50 for an aftermarket cat up to a few hundred for an OEM cat (though there's a few vehicles with oddly expensive ones) with the 50-state cats always costing an integer multiple more.
>But aside, would you really be okay going back to the days of photochemical smog choking away your sunlight and skyrocketing rates of asthma and acid rain dissolving your ancestor's gravestones??
What part about "sniffs withing spec at the tailpipe" was unclear?
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Cat install costs way more than that. But aside, would you really be okay going back to the days of photochemical smog choking away your sunlight and skyrocketing rates of asthma and acid rain dissolving your ancestor's gravestones?? Federal law requires the catalytic converters. Everyone is definitely better off for them.
> Cat install costs way more than that. Around here they're ~1hr of shop labor plus the cost of the cat (the latter being like $50 for an aftermarket cat up to a few hundred for an OEM cat (though there's a few vehicles with oddly expensive ones) with the 50-state cats always costing an integer multiple more. >But aside, would you really be okay going back to the days of photochemical smog choking away your sunlight…
https://www.walkerexhaust.com/products/light-vehicle/catalyt...
It won't sniff within spec at the tailpipe without the catalyst.
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Then how would we expect a legitimate mechanic to replace one?
Then they can show their mechanic's license. There's no reason for Joe off the street to come in with a backpack full of these things. Especially ones that are brand new. Here's 20 stolen from a dealership the other night - https://abc13.com/la-porte-car-dealership-theft-catalytic-co...
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By reinvesting the excess of money invested in the police into improving society for people, so that less people need to steal.
Let me try to understand your point of view. Are you in favor of abolishing the police? Do you believe crime will go away if we go forward with that?
Once again, I'm not in favour of abolishing the police. As I said in my previous message, I'm in favour of reducing the expense on police and instead investing it on social programs.
As I'm not in favour of abolishing, I won't argue your second point.
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> Cat install costs way more than that. Around here they're ~1hr of shop labor plus the cost of the cat (the latter being like $50 for an aftermarket cat up to a few hundred for an OEM cat (though there's a few vehicles with oddly expensive ones) with the 50-state cats always costing an integer multiple more. >But aside, would you really be okay going back to the days of photochemical smog choking away your sunlight…
$150 cat? I don't buy it. It costs $50 to turn the welder on for cheapy aftermarket units that fail fast, the clamp type arent compatible for most exhausts and cats are more that $50 even for older vehicles. Recent models can be hundreds of dollars on parts wholesalers. Your mechanic will charge list price. https://www.walkerexhaust.com/products/light-vehicle/catalyt... It won't sniff within spec at the tailpipe with…
> what cat you put on what as long as it sniffs within spec