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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Drugs destroyed his life, and it wasn't glorious. I'm not sure what else there is to say

or did he take drugs bc his life was shit? why did you decide to establish this direction of causality?

Maybe most reasonably experienced adults know that drugs screw your life up.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Good or bad, what a sad ending to a colorful life. The guy was troubled and had many shortcomings, but he was colorful and also achieved success and arguably was one of the seminal figures in the nascent AV industry. Sad to see his fall from grace and into a world of extravagance, deceit and cheating (taxes) and, if allegations true, even worse; then to end it on the floor of a jail -all by his own hands.

Is "achieved success" vs. notoriety something to consider here? Maybe parameterized w.r.t. time period? (90s vs. now, etc.)

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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post #728

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Realise that people can be super nice to you and cruel/evil to somebody else. The serial killer living next door might be a great neighbour. That doesn’t change the facts of what he/she is.

Watch 'The Fall' mini-series for a good example

Are you sure you want to use a fictional story as an example?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Why hasn’t anyone questioned the order of the presented events? Could he have easily killed himself first, then have been extradited?

It would be a convenient front run story to alter public perceptions — and front running would be the appropriate way to classify the death

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Interesting tweet by Kim Dotcom... (fuel for the conspiracy theory): https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1407805522175094785 “I wan’t to build an anti surveillance phone Kim. With air-gapped cam & mic, open source OS with VM and the most secure crypto wallet. That will piss the mass spying US govt off. Want to help me?” — John McAfee Shortly after he was arrested on “tax charges”. RIP John.

Oh look, another conspiracy theory! That didn't take long. Does this one tie John in with Epstein too, like another comment's conspiracy theory does?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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post #581
post #569

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It should absolutely be discounted. There's literally no evidence suggesting he was murdered. He was about to be extradited, the US Government was well on their way to making an example of him. There was no incentive to murder him.

Also of note - suicide in the US is extremely difficult if you've been identified as someone with intention. You get checked on every 15 minutes, including at night (which can be a torture by itself)

Doesn't seem that uncommon:

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/02/13/jaildeaths/

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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post #690

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It's a logical standard. You can't prove a negative (ie that you didn't do something and thus are innocent), so the burden of proof must always be on those making a claim to show that it is true. While it might not be as dangerous for the gossip column to employ fallacious reasoning as it would be for a court of law, that doesn't stop it from being wrong.

Outside the courtroom everybody makes judgements based on the balance of evidence, because we can’t possibly know enough facts to pass the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard.

You mean like people judging others on Twitter based on gossip and quotes out of context? Society could do a lot better by imitating the justice system standards a bit more. The system was created that way for important ethical reasons.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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post #23

What a strange life he lived. I'm not going to make a value judgement about whether or not he was a 'good' person, but I do applaud the fact that he dared to deviate from the norm. "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." -- Hunter S Thompson RIP

He’s a murderer and fraudster. You do not in fact have to applaud him for anything.

Nobody "is" anything. People do things. He did some good things, worth praising. He's also allegedly done some despicable things that we should condemn.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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I mean, is that 100% true?

Probably (by which I refer to the standard of judgement in the civil suit). https://www.theregister.com/2019/03/20/mcafee_25m_lawsuit_ne...

That was a default judgement, which means he automatically lost because he didn't show up to court, not on the merit of the suit.
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