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Post by totetsu »

newsclues wrote: post #49
btown wrote: post #31

A welcome move for individuals who may have embarrassing content as Unlisted links. Future politicians will thank you. But... this will hit B2B product training and product marketing libraries hard . Many companies I've seen have help pages with embedded or linked videos for features not updated in years, and many of those embeds are Unlisted videos so that they're only seen in the context of their help article, not…

Maybe critical training materials should not be published to YouTube?

This is the problem with these services.. they are free and every one was using them without thinking about what they 'should' do, because they didn't knowing any better, didn't understand that the service could change at any moment.. and we lost a generation of important records because people stopped posting on their websites and blogs, and started posting on instagram, twitter and youtube

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by Negitivefrags »

randrews wrote: post #63
btown wrote: post #31

A welcome move for individuals who may have embarrassing content as Unlisted links. Future politicians will thank you. But... this will hit B2B product training and product marketing libraries hard . Many companies I've seen have help pages with embedded or linked videos for features not updated in years, and many of those embeds are Unlisted videos so that they're only seen in the context of their help article, not…

So your complaint is that a company might have put a forklift training video on youtube, as an unlisted video, have then forgotten the password to change it, then will hire someone and tell them to watch it, that person won't be able to and will then not tell anyone else that fact, and after all that they might then hurt themselves with a forklift? At what point is a hypothetical harmful scenario too absurd to care a…

Most people when confronted with a problem, just ignore it.

This can be hard to imagine for a problem solver personality. How can people be so helpless?

But it’s basically because people have learned that complaining usually achieves nothing so they don’t even bother.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by hackmiester »

dylan604 wrote: post #104
xxpor wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely thought the email I got for this (for my personal Google app domain) was a phishing attempt. Why couldn't they have included the text in the email rather than some generic sketchy "You have a notification" nonsense?

If there was a link that said "Click here to view your messages", then yeah, I'd agree it would sound like a phishing attempt. If it was an email saying, "You have a notification" and you have to manually log in to see it, then there's less chance of you clicking on a phishing attempt. Also, if there's any personal/private/sensitive information, this method makes it unavailable over email. Just shooting from the hip.…

Yeah, that's why it looked so phishy.

Exact text:

"Dear Google Workspace Administrator,

You have an important notification from Google Operations that requires your attention.

Sincerely, The Google Operations Team"

And then there is a clickable link: "Go to Alert Center"

This is the first time I have EVER heard of the Alert Center. So, I also assumed it was made up.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by tablespoon »

totetsu wrote: post #131
newsclues wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe critical training materials should not be published to YouTube?

This is the problem with these services.. they are free and every one was using them without thinking about what they 'should' do, because they didn't knowing any better, didn't understand that the service could change at any moment.. and we lost a generation of important records because people stopped posting on their websites and blogs, and started posting on instagram, twitter and youtube

Or they were, but they had to do more with less. Given how companies love to "cut costs," the dedicated training people who had the time and expertise to think about how the task "should" have been done may have been canned. However, the need still exists, so the task fell on some overworked person with other responsibilities to juggle, who barely has enough time to get a quick an dirty job done with Youtube.

I believe management consultants call that "efficiency."

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by cs2818 »

daniellarusso wrote: post #69
randrews wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your complaint is that a company might have put a forklift training video on youtube, as an unlisted video, have then forgotten the password to change it, then will hire someone and tell them to watch it, that person won't be able to and will then not tell anyone else that fact, and after all that they might then hurt themselves with a forklift? At what point is a hypothetical harmful scenario too absurd to care a…

This is the best forklift training video I have seen: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forklift_Driver_Klaus_–_The_...

Thank you for sharing a treasure I somehow missed until today. Would enjoy this style applied to other safety videos!

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by resoluteteeth »

QuercusMax wrote: post #82
judge2020 wrote: post #20

The thing that makes this fishy is that I also received an email for my Google Workspace organization about link sharing changing for Google Drive for a security update, and the date it initially takes effect is the same day at this YouTube thing, July 23. https://support.google.com/a/answer/10685032?hl=en Could something have happened across their entire Zanzibar/ ACL infrastructure?

Seems highly unlikely to me (a Google engineer who works on systems that use Zanzibar / Cloud IAM) that this is a result of anything other than a change in policy.

This person seems to believe it's a security issue with video ids, but maybe that's not related to Zanzibar:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27611436

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by naniwaduni »

randrews wrote: post #63
btown wrote: post #31

A welcome move for individuals who may have embarrassing content as Unlisted links. Future politicians will thank you. But... this will hit B2B product training and product marketing libraries hard . Many companies I've seen have help pages with embedded or linked videos for features not updated in years, and many of those embeds are Unlisted videos so that they're only seen in the context of their help article, not…

So your complaint is that a company might have put a forklift training video on youtube, as an unlisted video, have then forgotten the password to change it, then will hire someone and tell them to watch it, that person won't be able to and will then not tell anyone else that fact, and after all that they might then hurt themselves with a forklift? At what point is a hypothetical harmful scenario too absurd to care a…

when multiplying it by youtube size isn't still a big number?

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by contingencies »

Animats wrote: post #66
contingencies wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please share the URL! I always appreciate your hardware comments and would love to see what you've shared in video format.

First legged running on rough terrain (around 1994) https://youtu.be/kc5n0iTw-NU Made on a 20MHz Mac IIci, not enough computer for the job. First working ragdoll (around 1997) https://youtu.be/5lHqEwk7YHs Ragdoll physics, correct but slow. Big falling object test (around 1997) https://youtu.be/-DaWIHc1VLY Notice that it looks heavy, unlike most video game physics.

As an Aussie I appreciate the kangaroo. We still work often with 20MHz: good enough for most control applications. Not sure I'd want distributed control applications with multiple control algorithms and timing quandries, though.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by swiley »

btown wrote: post #31

A welcome move for individuals who may have embarrassing content as Unlisted links. Future politicians will thank you. But... this will hit B2B product training and product marketing libraries hard . Many companies I've seen have help pages with embedded or linked videos for features not updated in years, and many of those embeds are Unlisted videos so that they're only seen in the context of their help article, not…

IMO: it's always been pretty dumb to use youtube for important things, doubly so important things that avoid the discoverability aspect.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by coryrc »

rib3ye wrote: post #56
bmurphy1976 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have one video in my favorites that is marked as unavailable. This drives me crazy I'll never know what that video was. I only have a couple videos in my favorites and every single one of them is important to me. If you can back them up.

Does youtube-dl support playlists?

I have a script running nightly to backup my playlists
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