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Post by lioeters »

throwawaysea wrote: post #17

A related frustration for me is when I have random videos in my "watch later" list replaced with a gray square and a note saying the video is no longer unavailable or has been made private. Since I don't even get any details of what the video was (title/channel/description), I can't go find it elsewhere. It's like having a song deleted from a playlist silently. It makes me wonder if I should even rely on Google's fea…

In light on this common experience of natural and intentional link rot for YouTube videos, I think the only sensible strategy is to use youtube-dl to download videos to watch (and possibly delete) later.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by bombcar »

dylan604 wrote: post #104
xxpor wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely thought the email I got for this (for my personal Google app domain) was a phishing attempt. Why couldn't they have included the text in the email rather than some generic sketchy "You have a notification" nonsense?

If there was a link that said "Click here to view your messages", then yeah, I'd agree it would sound like a phishing attempt. If it was an email saying, "You have a notification" and you have to manually log in to see it, then there's less chance of you clicking on a phishing attempt. Also, if there's any personal/private/sensitive information, this method makes it unavailable over email. Just shooting from the hip.…

You’re training users to click a “you have a notification” email that’s not easy to verify is legit.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by freeflight »

andrewzah wrote: post #75
fudged71 wrote: post #74

Intentional link rot. Am I supposed to go through all my old bookmarks and saves to see what to download?

What's stopping you from downloading videos you care about in the first place? It's not that hard to have youtube-dl batch download playlists, which is what I do.

I wonder where the web went wrong that we ended up in this regressive place where we have to create local backups because the Internet has gotten really good at "forgetting" all the fun and interesting stuff, while never forgetting all our personal info :/

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by DangitBobby »

randrews wrote: post #63
btown wrote: post #31

A welcome move for individuals who may have embarrassing content as Unlisted links. Future politicians will thank you. But... this will hit B2B product training and product marketing libraries hard . Many companies I've seen have help pages with embedded or linked videos for features not updated in years, and many of those embeds are Unlisted videos so that they're only seen in the context of their help article, not…

So your complaint is that a company might have put a forklift training video on youtube, as an unlisted video, have then forgotten the password to change it, then will hire someone and tell them to watch it, that person won't be able to and will then not tell anyone else that fact, and after all that they might then hurt themselves with a forklift? At what point is a hypothetical harmful scenario too absurd to care a…

I'm confused by your confusion. I am absolutely positive I have made videos at old workplaces that will be impacted by the change. Who knows if they'll figure it out!

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by lmm »

bombcar wrote: post #112
dylan604 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there was a link that said "Click here to view your messages", then yeah, I'd agree it would sound like a phishing attempt. If it was an email saying, "You have a notification" and you have to manually log in to see it, then there's less chance of you clicking on a phishing attempt. Also, if there's any personal/private/sensitive information, this method makes it unavailable over email. Just shooting from the hip.…

You’re training users to click a “you have a notification” email that’s not easy to verify is legit.

You're training users to not click a link in an email, but rather log in from your homepage.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by oh_sigh »

judge2020 wrote: post #20

The thing that makes this fishy is that I also received an email for my Google Workspace organization about link sharing changing for Google Drive for a security update, and the date it initially takes effect is the same day at this YouTube thing, July 23. https://support.google.com/a/answer/10685032?hl=en Could something have happened across their entire Zanzibar/ ACL infrastructure?

Out of curiosity, could you blindly speculate about something that could happen to this service that would require these changes to be made in drive/youtube?

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Post by paulmooreparks »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #106
kube-system wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably can, but the people who are tasked with delivering training videos likely do not have the technical ability to do so.

Sound like they do not have the skills or tools needed to do their job.

They do. S3 and tags are not usually part of that skill set.

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Post by brokenmachine »

yoz-y wrote: post #60
brokenmachine wrote: post #52

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I have hundreds of missing videos in my various lists. I wish youtube would at least keep the title there so you know what it is that has been lost. Welcome to the alzheimic future.

That’s a feature. If somebody deletes their video then all of the metadata goes with it. I agree that it can be annoying but among other things, it’s the law.

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

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Post by SilverRed »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #107
SilverRed wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no better way to provide video content with a text document than to link to youtube. Sure they should have a private backup but until youtube stops working well like it has for a decade, it's still more reliable than any self hosted setup a company would build.

There absolutely is, place it on company google drive! You will even have real access control!

Last I checked, google drive videos and youtube were in a weird merged state.

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Post by 8note »

DangitBobby wrote: post #114
randrews wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your complaint is that a company might have put a forklift training video on youtube, as an unlisted video, have then forgotten the password to change it, then will hire someone and tell them to watch it, that person won't be able to and will then not tell anyone else that fact, and after all that they might then hurt themselves with a forklift? At what point is a hypothetical harmful scenario too absurd to care a…

I'm confused by your confusion. I am absolutely positive I have made videos at old workplaces that will be impacted by the change. Who knows if they'll figure it out!

I think the absurdity is that the videos you made are necessary to avoid injury?
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