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Post by db48x »

laurent123456 wrote: post #84
SilverRed wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no better way to provide video content with a text document than to link to youtube. Sure they should have a private backup but until youtube stops working well like it has for a decade, it's still more reliable than any self hosted setup a company would build.

That may have been true, but these days can't you just put the video on S3 or any storage and play it using the tag?

Yea, that is entirely doable. Some transcoding might need to be done first though. The worst part is that you’ll have to get your IT department involved.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by dylan604 »

laurent123456 wrote: post #84
SilverRed wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no better way to provide video content with a text document than to link to youtube. Sure they should have a private backup but until youtube stops working well like it has for a decade, it's still more reliable than any self hosted setup a company would build.

That may have been true, but these days can't you just put the video on S3 or any storage and play it using the tag?

If you're a nerd into cloud providers, web development, etc, then mabye that sounds reasonable. If you're some person in charge of training that has none of that techy background, putting a video up on YouTube sounds like the perfect idea.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by sen »

barosl wrote: post #2

That's unfortunate. I have a few videos which seems to have been forgotten even by their uploaders. Those videos would probably not be updated. I guess I need to back them up manually.

For many years now I "favourite" videos on YT by downloading them. You can't expect any video on YT to still be there tomorrow/later.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by dylan604 »

xxpor wrote: post #46
judge2020 wrote: post #20

The thing that makes this fishy is that I also received an email for my Google Workspace organization about link sharing changing for Google Drive for a security update, and the date it initially takes effect is the same day at this YouTube thing, July 23. https://support.google.com/a/answer/10685032?hl=en Could something have happened across their entire Zanzibar/ ACL infrastructure?

I completely thought the email I got for this (for my personal Google app domain) was a phishing attempt. Why couldn't they have included the text in the email rather than some generic sketchy "You have a notification" nonsense?

If there was a link that said "Click here to view your messages", then yeah, I'd agree it would sound like a phishing attempt.

If it was an email saying, "You have a notification" and you have to manually log in to see it, then there's less chance of you clicking on a phishing attempt. Also, if there's any personal/private/sensitive information, this method makes it unavailable over email.

Just shooting from the hip. It could also just be laziness.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

randrews wrote: post #63
btown wrote: post #31

A welcome move for individuals who may have embarrassing content as Unlisted links. Future politicians will thank you. But... this will hit B2B product training and product marketing libraries hard . Many companies I've seen have help pages with embedded or linked videos for features not updated in years, and many of those embeds are Unlisted videos so that they're only seen in the context of their help article, not…

So your complaint is that a company might have put a forklift training video on youtube, as an unlisted video, have then forgotten the password to change it, then will hire someone and tell them to watch it, that person won't be able to and will then not tell anyone else that fact, and after all that they might then hurt themselves with a forklift? At what point is a hypothetical harmful scenario too absurd to care a…

Its about responsibility, not absurdity. It is Youtube's responsebility to protect customer privacy, wheras a company's management is meant to take responsebility for staff training and use appropriate tools/hosting for that.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

kube-system wrote: post #100
laurent123456 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That may have been true, but these days can't you just put the video on S3 or any storage and play it using the tag?

You probably can, but the people who are tasked with delivering training videos likely do not have the technical ability to do so.

Sound like they do not have the skills or tools needed to do their job.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

SilverRed wrote: post #72
newsclues wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe critical training materials should not be published to YouTube?

There is no better way to provide video content with a text document than to link to youtube. Sure they should have a private backup but until youtube stops working well like it has for a decade, it's still more reliable than any self hosted setup a company would build.

There absolutely is, place it on company google drive! You will even have real access control!

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by rattray »

randrews wrote: post #63
btown wrote: post #31

A welcome move for individuals who may have embarrassing content as Unlisted links. Future politicians will thank you. But... this will hit B2B product training and product marketing libraries hard . Many companies I've seen have help pages with embedded or linked videos for features not updated in years, and many of those embeds are Unlisted videos so that they're only seen in the context of their help article, not…

So your complaint is that a company might have put a forklift training video on youtube, as an unlisted video, have then forgotten the password to change it, then will hire someone and tell them to watch it, that person won't be able to and will then not tell anyone else that fact, and after all that they might then hurt themselves with a forklift? At what point is a hypothetical harmful scenario too absurd to care a…

The scenario you described doesn't sound absurd to me at all.

Even at high-functioning companies, people don't report or fix glaring problems in documentation and training material. There are quite a lot of not-so-high-functioning companies in the world.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by giantrobot »

CydeWeys wrote: post #83
giantrobot wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I despise the memory hole Google dumps things into. As far as YouTube is concerned a deleted video might as well never have existed.

The alternative, that Google doesn't delete stuff that people want deleted, is worse. They can't win either way.

They could delete the video content and leave a sanitized version of the metadata. For instance leave the post date and title while removing the description and owner information.

Searching for a video's URL might let you find some metadata about it. Unfortunately YouTube encourages social media insulation so a video might have only ever been referenced inside of YouTube with no inbound links from the web.

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