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“Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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A related frustration for me is when I have random videos in my "watch later" list replaced with a gray square and a note saying the video is no longer unavailable or has been made private. Since I don't even get any details of what the video was (title/channel/description), I can't go find it elsewhere. It's like having a song deleted from a playlist silently. It makes me wonder if I should even rely on Google's fea…

Almost like submitting to centralized gatekeeping is a crime against public culture, intellectual history and social integrity... wait... what are we all building again?

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

#24
This seems to be a planned change related to a new link generator they released in 2017 [1]. You can opt out here [2] if an old video is effected. It seems like the unlisted feature is otherwise unchanged. I suppose you can also flip an effected video back to unlisted and get a new link after this goes into effect.

[1] https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/114633828/changes-...

[2] https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9230970

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Seems reasonable tbh. even through it might "hit" some hidden and mostly forgotten gems.

Doesn't to me. Patreon tier-restricted videos, not to mention family shared videos, fall into this category, and not all creators are savy enough to know they need to do this.

Did they send an email to affected accounts? There seems to be a logical reason for this (newer unlisted videos have a more secure url generator), so I’d say this is neutral at worst.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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I think it's mostly a good thing but it's Google so there must be an angle. Am I too jaded?

Reducing costs in storage/caching.

I don't think so.

With respect to storage, there's a provision to delete old videos in the EULA at any time Google chooses. Eventually Google will pull the trigger.

Caching, I'm not so sure, but I'd be surprised if hiding old unlisted videos freed up enough of it to matter. New videos probably dominate cache storage.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

#27

A related frustration for me is when I have random videos in my "watch later" list replaced with a gray square and a note saying the video is no longer unavailable or has been made private. Since I don't even get any details of what the video was (title/channel/description), I can't go find it elsewhere. It's like having a song deleted from a playlist silently. It makes me wonder if I should even rely on Google's fea…

These days I use ytdl instead of watch later... A friend sent me a link to an amazing tech tutorial someone made and they wasn't sure whether that is their thing. Of course they received a lot of abuse from internet trolls and later deleted the video and disappeared. I was never able to find that video again and since then I always download.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

#28

The thing that makes this fishy is that I also received an email for my Google Workspace organization about link sharing changing for Google Drive for a security update, and the date it initially takes effect is the same day at this YouTube thing, July 23. https://support.google.com/a/answer/10685032?hl=en Could something have happened across their entire Zanzibar/ ACL infrastructure?

Could you explain what that is?

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

#29

A related frustration for me is when I have random videos in my "watch later" list replaced with a gray square and a note saying the video is no longer unavailable or has been made private. Since I don't even get any details of what the video was (title/channel/description), I can't go find it elsewhere. It's like having a song deleted from a playlist silently. It makes me wonder if I should even rely on Google's fea…

Google the URL. You'll often find it in the Google cache or linked from somewhere else with the full description. This can sometimes be enough information to find an alternate source.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

#30

The opt-out process only takes 30 seconds.

What if the uploader of videos died? How are they supposed to do that...

> What if the uploader of videos died?

Google has process for handling accounts of the deceased (mostly for closing them and exporting some data, which can then be moved to a new account). Or individuals could assure that next of kin get credentials to their account for control.

But, yeah, a zombie account (without any active owner) won't be able to opt out.

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