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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by neom »

hluska wrote: post #380
Buttons840 wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say he was "sloshed" do you mean he was drunk? Or do you mean he was very pleased with your praise?

Sloshed is a weird word. It means drunk but if you go through etymology, it started at slush and moved to slosh which was to splash around in slush. Then somewhere along the lines, 'slosh' meant to pour without care and make a mess. That turned into pour alcohol carelessly and become a mess.

Where I grew up in Scotland, sloshed very specifically meant you couldn't pour the booze straight anymore, more than just a bit drunk. However, it's also considered somewhat polite, I thought... more appropriate when speaking of the dead.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by tptacek »

skinkestek wrote: post #381
tptacek wrote: post #315

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At least one of those rape accusations was made on camera, by Allison Adonizio. It's not a fuzzy Twitter rumor thing. She accuses him of drugging and raping her.

Not saying it did or didn't happen but plenty of people has been accused not only on Twitter but also on TV for things they never did.

He was convicted neither of rape nor of murder (though he was apparently found culpable for the murder by a US federal judge in a wrongful death suit). I believe he is guilty of both, as is my right; you might disagree, as is your right.

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Post by StevenRayOrr »

prvc wrote: post #195
okamiueru wrote: post #22

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As cynical as it might seem, there is an alternative possibility: in spite of getting a tattoo saying he would not kill himself, and in spite of posting a tweet saying he would not kill himself, he went ahead and killed himself.

He could have killed himself anyway--- that is obvious , but his past statements still need to be taken seriously, and extra care and doubt need to be applied to the reported story.

> his past statements still need to be taken seriously, and extra care and doubt need to be applied to the reported story.

Why? The fact that he had a paranoid fantasy of being murdered by the US government doesn't make it so. I don't have to take extra care with the ramblings of conspiracy theorists with a long history of outright bullshit.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by TearsInTheRain »

engineeringwoke wrote: post #255
stingraycharles wrote: post #233

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That seems to imply that he lived a deviant life because he took drugs, rather than the other way around. This is precisely the type of judgement that the parent wanted to avoid. :)

Drugs destroyed his life, and it wasn't glorious. I'm not sure what else there is to say

Did you know him personally to be able to make that judgement. To me it sounds like lying on his taxes destroyed his life, or to be more charitable to him, the government destroyed his life

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Post by cabaalis »

Taek wrote: post #359
xadhominemx wrote: post #275

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He’s a murderer and fraudster. You do not in fact have to applaud him for anything.

You can celebrate someone's accomplishments without condoning their sins. I applaud lots of little pieces of his life and reject/regret many others.

I agree with you, but I'm pretty sure the age of social media has us in the minority.

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Post by Hamuko »

prvc wrote: post #195
okamiueru wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As cynical as it might seem, there is an alternative possibility: in spite of getting a tattoo saying he would not kill himself, and in spite of posting a tweet saying he would not kill himself, he went ahead and killed himself.

He could have killed himself anyway--- that is obvious , but his past statements still need to be taken seriously, and extra care and doubt need to be applied to the reported story.

>his past statements still need to be taken seriously

Like the one where he promised to eat his own penis?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by bronzeage »

ufmace wrote: post #377
stusmall wrote: post #40

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There was a ruling today approving his extradition to the US. US officials were about to get him and he was facing extremely serious charges. That's a really important bit of context to keep in mind before jumping to ideas that some shadowy "they" had him killed.

The timing does make me suspicious. I'm generally willing to believe he was "suicided" by some shadowy conspiracy. But if that's what happened, why would they do it on the day his extradition was approved? If our secret ninja assassins wanted to take him out because he Knew Too Much or whatever, they could do that any old time. Why do it on the day his extradition was approved instead of some random day 6 months ago…

You literally answered it yourself: you find the suicide more believable today. If you find it more believable today, and their motivation is obscuring the murder, this is the perfect timing actually.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by rchaud »

patfla wrote: post #261

Watched about 20 minutes of Gringo before I got tired of it and turned it off. Sounds like a textbook case of what can happen if you take a very bright person and then give them a sudden windfall of success. That is, derangement. He or she doesn't stop being smart and even charismatic and so on. One question always is: what's the next act? No next act and the propensity to derangement goes up.

> what's the next act?

Very hard question to answer for those who got rich early, , lived fast, but now are out of the game and direction-less.

A lot of pro athletes suffer depression after retirement because of the absence of the daily routine. You have a lifetime of empty hours left to fill. Some are fortunate and have a network of friends and family to provide companionship and support. Others don't and try to fill the void with sex and drugs. But that just conceals the fundamental emptiness. It's still there, and will reveal itself the second you come down.

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Post by fastball »

jahewson wrote: post #386
fastball wrote: post #325

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Unless McAfee has dirt on you, and getting extradited to the US with serious crimes against him means a high likelihood of him turning state's witness.

He’s not exactly going to appear credible in court.

When I say dirt I don't mean hearsay. I mean physical evidence.

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Post by jwdunne »

neom wrote: post #391
hluska wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sloshed is a weird word. It means drunk but if you go through etymology, it started at slush and moved to slosh which was to splash around in slush. Then somewhere along the lines, 'slosh' meant to pour without care and make a mess. That turned into pour alcohol carelessly and become a mess.

Where I grew up in Scotland, sloshed very specifically meant you couldn't pour the booze straight anymore, more than just a bit drunk. However, it's also considered somewhat polite, I thought... more appropriate when speaking of the dead.

That’s the meaning in Manchester too. Extreme state of intoxication by alcohol. Beyond mere “I’m drunk”.
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