John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US • Hacker News Board

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by beart » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

InitialLastName wrote: post #125

uncletammy wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. In America, we're supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. It's a shame it really only takes an accusation.

He was found guilty in a civil suit, and has been actively avoiding a criminal trial. "Likely" is a fully appropriate term, since all evidence points to that being the case, but (as you say) there has been no trial to subject that thesis to evidence.

Civil trials do not determine guilt or innocence

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by cortesoft » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

uncletammy wrote: post #77

gkoberger wrote: post #32

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

> I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. In America, we're supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. It's a shame it really only takes an accusation.

If you flee the country to avoid being tried in court, we are just supposed to say "Oh well, guess you are innocent forever"?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by chpmrc » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

gkoberger wrote: post #32

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

> he likely killed his neighbor

> he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams

Well, that escalated quickly.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by underseacables » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 8:22 PM UTC

End of an era. What a shame.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by nodesocket » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

gkoberger wrote: post #32

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

Here in America we have something called innocent until proven guilty.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by colordrops » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

notafraudster wrote: post #160

colordrops wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is indeed an alternative possiblity, but the possiblity that he was murdered should not be discounted. Murdering those that challenge authority has been happening since the dawn of history and nothing has fundamentally changed. Well other than needing to make it look like a suicide since modern society likes to believe it's enlightened.

McAfee was an obviously unhinged lunatic peddling fringe nonsense. You can make an argument that cryptocurrency poses a threat to the state, but a 75 year old man who spends 16 hours a day rambling on twitter about fringe stuff does not. The available evidence points strongly to a deeply mentally ill guy facing life in prison and killing himself.

"obviously an unhinged lunatic". That's a very strong statement that doesn't add to the discussion other than to trigger fear of association among commenters here. Facts are always better than ad hominem.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by motohagiography » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

I didn't know him at all, but felt there was something I recognized and understood about what he was saying. If you must burn, burn bright. It looked like a great ride.

This video of him playing piano is what I think he wanted people to know: https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/136205988701080781...

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by andruby » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

morelisp wrote: post #144

pfisch wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but who cares what he says? He is just a crazy person who dodged taxes.

Unfortunately like Shkreli, Trump, etc., he has amassed an army of angry young extremely online men who hung on his every word, and will now descend on the comments section.

Extremely online men?

I think the HN community has little overlap with the #FreeMcAfee club.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by nwsm » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

godmode2019 wrote: post #103

gkoberger wrote: post #32

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

You are stating something as fact, something that happened in another country. You are so well informed you watched a documentary and read some news articles. He ran for US president in the last few races. How was he on the run.

What do you mean how was he on the run? He (likely) killed himself to avoid extradition

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by caymanjim » Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

breck wrote: post #91

Don't know nearly anything about the guy, but as a rule anytime an enemy of a government dies of "suicide" or natural causes and there is no video footage I am suspect. You can buy a security cam and a year of monitoring for a the price of a hamburger. Nowadays a 3 year old can't eat a cookie without there being video footage. These should be assumed murders until proven otherwise. If you need a reminder of why, watc…

People in prison are already living under an extreme degree of observation and control. Now you want to deprive them of the last tiny bit of privacy they can hope for and record them 24/7 in their cells?