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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by Cyberdog »

bethecloud wrote: post #8

From McAffee in 2019, "Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: "We're coming for you McAfee! We're going to kill yourself". I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't. I was whackd. Check my right arm. " https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/120086428376625152...

I have found that "I'll never kill myself. There's always something to live for" is something that is very easy for people who are safe and happy to say, and I pray that these people will always be safe and comfortable enough to not change their mind on this for their own sakes.

When you're sitting in a tiny concrete box and looking at the very distinct possibility of spending the rest of your life in such a box, either metaphorically or, in McAfee's case, literally, the thought process is quite different. Yes, McAfee has had run-ins with the law before, but maybe he figured he wasn't going to get out of this situation so easily, and he didn't have that many more good years left in front of him, concrete box or no.

Thus, I'm willing to accept this as a suicide unless and until compelling evidence otherwise surfaces.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by Barrin92 »

pdimitar wrote: post #52

Never followed his story but the translated article on NyPost only mentions his cryptocurrency pump and dump scheme. Which naturally leads me to the question, why was McAffee pursued for this all the way to Europe but Elon Musk isn't even investigated while millions watched him do the same? I am not loading this politically at all. I am not from the US and I am mostly apathetic to celebrities. But I am genuinely curi…

Musk was fined 40 million for his stock tweets but I don't think he technically ever engaged in any crypto pump and dump because I don't think he ever actually held (or dumped) any crypto. I assume you have to actually financially benefit from such a scheme to commit some sort of crime. Otherwise you're basically just shitposting about crypto.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by morelisp »

uncletammy wrote: post #77
gkoberger wrote: post #32

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

> I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. In America, we're supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. It's a shame it really only takes an accusation.

1) Presumption of innocence applies only in court which McAfee purposefully avoided.

2) He was found guilty in civil court.

3) If he wanted to be judged by American standards he should've perhaps stayed in America.

4) You're acting like accusations of torturing and murdering your (yes actually dead) neighbor happen regularly to random people. Cancel culture, amirite?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by bennyp101 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #56
bennyp101 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, is that 100% true?

Probably (by which I refer to the standard of judgement in the civil suit). https://www.theregister.com/2019/03/20/mcafee_25m_lawsuit_ne...

Ok.

hand wavey Tasered is not torture, else surely cops wouldn't use it? And he poisoned 4 dogs, people get rather angry about their pets. But yea, killing over it is extreme.

Still, seems an odd thing to extradite him for. Maybe more to the story which we will never know.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by prvc »

jszymborski wrote: post #2

From DeepL: > McAfee anti-virus founder John McAfee commits suicide in a Barcelona prison > The antivirus founder was arrested at El Prat airport and was awaiting extradition to the United States for tax evasion. > The founder of McAfee antivirus, John McAfee, has been found dead this afternoon in his cell in Brians 2 prison, in Sant Esteve de Sesrovires (Barcelona), according to police sources. The Mossos are invest…

Is there currently any information out there as to the cause of his death?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by mikestew »

uncletammy wrote: post #77
gkoberger wrote: post #32

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

> I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. In America, we're supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. It's a shame it really only takes an accusation.

"Innocent until proven guilty" is for the courts, who hold sway over one's freedom. It is perfectly acceptable as an individual to go, "yeah, he probably (because I, as an individual, aren't held to a 'reasonable doubt' standard, either) did it" just as it is perfectly acceptable to give some benefit of the doubt.

But as others have already pointed out, a court already found him guilty, and it's moot anyway.

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by beebeepka »

chris11 wrote: post #79
fridif wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The better questions are, did he deserve to be imprisoned and did he deserve to die?

No, the best outcome would have been a trial with a fair outcome. But he went down to South America, started making drugs, and got accused of rape and murder. The legal system should assume innocence before trial, though in my personal opinion he was an evil man.

What ecil did he do? Take drugs?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by lotsofpulp »

godmode2019 wrote: post #103
gkoberger wrote: post #32

I feel like a lot of people in this thread are forgetting he likely killed his neighbor in 2012 and has been on the run since. I mean, sure he built some antivirus software a few decades ago, but I don't think he deserves the eulogies he's getting here. He's not tech's Hunter S. Thompson; he's a murderer who spent the last years of his life screwing over people with crypto scams.

You are stating something as fact, something that happened in another country. You are so well informed you watched a documentary and read some news articles. He ran for US president in the last few races. How was he on the run.

Was he not running away and hiding from various countries’ authorities? Are all the articles making it up?

Re: John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by nabla9 »

bethecloud wrote: post #8

From McAffee in 2019, "Getting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect: "We're coming for you McAfee! We're going to kill yourself". I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't. I was whackd. Check my right arm. " https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/120086428376625152...

Anyone who believes that IRS or SEC sends a hitman to kill people because they evade taxes or run fraudulent crypto schemes, needs to examine their head.

McAfee was always paranoid. He was not a threat to the man. He also lied a lot and even admitted it many times.

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