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Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by mensetmanusman »

bradlys wrote: post #161
ramesh31 wrote: post #150

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>"Why is that? What's wrong with SF for dating? (just curious)" Where to begin? The tech industry is massively skewed towards male, so right off the bat your odds of meeting someone in your work life is near nil. Then, with the complete lack of affordable housing, there's no such thing as just being a single 20-something living independently and supporting yourself on a non-tech salary. Bare minimum subsistence incom…

Don’t feel too bad about the highly paid tech dudes. Tech dudes don’t stand a chance either because women don’t want to date another tech dude. I’m turning 31 in a couple months and am coming out of a 5 year relationship. It’s looking grim AF. My only real hope is that I get back with my ex eventually. I did the fancy vacations. I have the high income (~400k). I have a reasonably high net worth for my age (~2M). Even…

2M@31 means you could do almost anything and not have to have any kind of shit job.

E.g. you could buy a farm in the midwest and hire laborers, marry a local, and live life with the salt of the earth.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by igneo676 »

halfdan wrote: post #290
kritiko wrote: post #271

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if you leave your job, the company has to pay for your unused vacation days as part of your severance if you have a set number of vacation days.

In that case just take PTO before handing in your notice.

Incidentally, I just helped a family member work around the process of quitting his job and moving to a new one.

Their contract basically states:

1. PTO can't be paid out at the end of employment

2. PTO can't be used to quit the job

3. PTO can't be used _the entire last month_ of your employment with them

Which is nuts

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by bradlys »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #286
bradlys wrote: post #266

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135is convertible. Sporty, outrageously loud, and full of fun. I’d get a 1M but no drop top kills it for me. Also, I don’t have to feel as bad for driving it because a 1M is a collectible now. Gender ratio is definitely horrible. Likely the worst factor against straight men. It’s obvious everywhere. Dating in other cities is likely a lot better (especially not on the west coast AFAICT). It’s no surprise that most lon…

Is dating really that bad across the entire west coast? Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, and San Diego included? As far as your own dating life is concerned, what do you intend to do for yourself given how bad the circumstances are for you?

I hear LA and SD are better. But otherwise, pretty bad compared to east coast. Gender balance is just not there because of so many tech jobs.

I have nothing I can do. I’ll see if I can meet someone else in another city when I get back to traveling. That’s about my only hope. I have in person activities I do but I don’t think post-pandemic will bring enough new blood to make up for the bad odds. (Even the activity I do which is normally known for being woman heavy is more heavily male here than anywhere else I’ve seen in the world)

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by bradlys »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #291
bradlys wrote: post #161

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Don’t feel too bad about the highly paid tech dudes. Tech dudes don’t stand a chance either because women don’t want to date another tech dude. I’m turning 31 in a couple months and am coming out of a 5 year relationship. It’s looking grim AF. My only real hope is that I get back with my ex eventually. I did the fancy vacations. I have the high income (~400k). I have a reasonably high net worth for my age (~2M). Even…

2M@31 means you could do almost anything and not have to have any kind of shit job. E.g. you could buy a farm in the midwest and hire laborers, marry a local, and live life with the salt of the earth.

Ah, yes, because that's clearly what I want to do. Who really earns 2M by this age and goes, "Yeah, I wanna hire cheap immigrant laborers and live on a farm in BFE." Nearly no one.

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Post by spartas »

igneo676 wrote: post #292
halfdan wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that case just take PTO before handing in your notice.

Incidentally, I just helped a family member work around the process of quitting his job and moving to a new one. Their contract basically states: 1. PTO can't be paid out at the end of employment 2. PTO can't be used to quit the job 3. PTO can't be used _the entire last month_ of your employment with them Which is nuts

If that is based on calendar month, and not rolling 30-day period, then quit at the beginning of the month

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by Dracophoenix »

bradlys wrote: post #293
Dracophoenix wrote: post #286

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Is dating really that bad across the entire west coast? Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, and San Diego included? As far as your own dating life is concerned, what do you intend to do for yourself given how bad the circumstances are for you?

I hear LA and SD are better. But otherwise, pretty bad compared to east coast. Gender balance is just not there because of so many tech jobs. I have nothing I can do. I’ll see if I can meet someone else in another city when I get back to traveling. That’s about my only hope. I have in person activities I do but I don’t think post-pandemic will bring enough new blood to make up for the bad odds. (Even the activity I d…

What activity would that be? Also, any lessons learned with regard to your ex that you'd like to impart just so the rest of us don't fall through the same cracks you did?

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Post by hodgesrm »

fatjokes wrote: post #50
colesantiago wrote: post #19

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> It's an app with some basic functionality. > I doubt that all of their staff is doing DevOps or maintaining servers Please don't assume this. Just because you don't use the app and have no interest in the app or company does not mean you need to have a reductionist outlook on other people's work. Bumble has a great and in depth engineering blog [0] here that doesn't make it 'an app with some basic functionality.' […

A bit O/T, but a few things from that blog jumped out at me: 1. I clicked the we're hiring link. Most roles are in EU (particularly UK and Spain). Is that for cost reasons? I know hiring engineers is cheaper in those two locations in particular. Or is it for EU/Badoo reasons? 2. Despite frequently playing up its female-led workplace, all but one of the blog posts are authored by men (based on photos and names). Is th…

UK is not a low-cost region for hiring. Employment taxes are high and the IT market in locations like London is very competitive. Rates are comparable to hiring in the US outside of outliers like Silicon Valley.

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Post by jcadam »

timeandmoney wrote: post #252
jcadam wrote: post #88

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switching to a new project (or job) is generally the best thing for burnout as a dev. But a vacation is good for other reasons.

> switching to a new project (or job) is generally the best thing for burnout as a dev. This works for me, but it is a very short term solution, about 6-12months in it always seems to creep back.

I know what you mean. Just gotta keep switching, I guess. My current job has me working short duration R&D projects, which seems to help.

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Post by nicbou »

6t6t6t6 wrote: post #274
dharmab wrote: post #146

Adobe does two of these every year, one in winter around the holidays and one in July. From my perspective as an individual contributor, there are a few advantages: - With no feature/project work that week, there is zero pressure to check email or slack. - Teams are forced to build systems that are automated, resilient and documented enough that most of the staff won't need to be contacted during the shutdown week. -…

You guys check work email and work Slack when on holidays?

In Germany it's expected that vacationing workers are as good as dead until they return.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by nicbou »

missedthecue wrote: post #109
deregulateMed wrote: post #56

I never found vacations to be useful for burnout. What does work for me is having a 40 hour work week. If I'm doing the same job for 50+ hrs/week, I start to dread the work. That said, this is drastic, seems like something other than burnout is going on.

whenever i go on vacation the first day or two are fun and relaxing but eventually i spend the rest of the week wishing i was back at work

I read similar stories from early retirees. After some time they get bored and return to work.

I honestly don't get it. I have never experienced that feeling. I'm now on my second year of working significantly less, and you'd have to drag me back kicking and screaming.

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