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Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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I'd love to do that, but health insurance in the US makes it a nonstarter.

Cash is still king and joining something like kaiser is like $230/month for sub 30 yo.

Unfortunately, not nearly as affordable for a sole breadwinner supporting a family.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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This is exactly why I've concluded trying to go my own way is the best long-term plan for me. Before learning about YC and HN and such, the thought never really occurred to me. When I'm working on a personal project I'm really passionate about, my productivity is literally orders of magnitude higher than at any day job I've had. Months or years are compressed into days. For any ambitious personal project that I'm int…

> Regarding the author's username: yes, it's that one.

Curious to know who the author is or what he is famous for? I searched his posts, it looks like there were no post for a decade before last year.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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Isn't it just rational not to get excited about boring stuff that is rewarded by a fix monetary ceiling? Economically it completely makes sense: why put more energy into something that yields the same result either way? Or maybe I have ADHD too.

it's not about not getting excited. It's the result of being "not excited". Neurotypicals can work on things that are uninteresting to them. ADHD people can sit there yelling at themselves to "do the thing" that they _know_ they need to do and still be completely incapable of starting regardless of how "easy" it is to actually do it once something forces them to actually start. this video does a good job of explainin…

> ADHD people can sit there yelling at themselves to "do the thing" that they _know_ they need to do and still be completely incapable of starting regardless of how "easy" it is to actually do it once something forces them to actually start.

Isn't that basically how everyone behaves?

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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That's great until the economy changes and you have to start competing again. I had a slack job for my mid career when I should have been busting my ass and positioning myself for my later career. I wasted tons of time and regret it. You may have ADHD. You may just be lacking self discipline. I don't know. You should get your shit together now when you have the option and not wait for life circumstances to demand it.…

What does busting your ass for later career look like?

To me that’s stuff you do outside of work, because at work you just get more of the same level work as the level you are on.

So you need to study/network outside of your job to get ahead.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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This is exactly why I've concluded trying to go my own way is the best long-term plan for me. Before learning about YC and HN and such, the thought never really occurred to me. When I'm working on a personal project I'm really passionate about, my productivity is literally orders of magnitude higher than at any day job I've had. Months or years are compressed into days. For any ambitious personal project that I'm int…

> Regarding the author's username: yes, it's that one. Curious to know who the author is or what he is famous for? I searched his posts, it looks like there were no post for a decade before last year.

Roko, of "Roko's basilisk".

He himself isn't really famous, but due to the infamous reaction his post on the subject received, his username will probably be etched into the history books for centuries. (Or at least a few fiction and non-fiction books here and there.)

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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The problem with ADHD is that it applies to everything in your life, not just work. You're equally unable to do chores, hobbies, have fun, or even finish watching a TV series. Actually, they're even harder to do than work because there's no pressure on you to keep up with it.

I hate to be this condescending but why is this not just ordinary laziness? Do we really need to go to a doctor so that we hear that we have a problem, and we might need medicine, to focus? Isn't it more likely that a constant stream of never ending notifications and interruptions decrease our attention span to seconds? You can't read a book because you can't read an article, and you can't read and article because yo…

And what exactly is "ordinary laziness"?

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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Cash is still king and joining something like kaiser is like $230/month for sub 30 yo.

Unfortunately, not nearly as affordable for a sole breadwinner supporting a family.

Indeed. I'm fortunate (or not, depending on one's perspective) in that I'm single and have no dependents. I pretty much only spend money on rent and food, and I'm more than happy living in a very tiny place with just a bed and a bathroom. (As long as it's a quiet place I'm not sharing and has a decent internet connection.)

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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Work smart, not hard. Actually sounds like you are doing just that:

> reading blog posts, HN, often even reading (tech, biz-related) books

You will gain knowledge from doing those things, that will aid you in your job. Technically demanding roles require constant learning, not just bums-on-seats bashing out code.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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If I’m your boss, sitting next to you and in full view of your screen, and I’m there for 8 hours working, will the average person work a real 8 hours?

When I was a junior engineer, I quit a position over this. My manager had a direct line of sight from his desk into my screen and would give me passive aggressive comments if I wasn’t always on task. I was the best performing engineer at that company, handling a contract that was worth >20% of their revenue by myself. They loved me at that company, and I wish I had been honest with the feedback I gave during my exit…

Curious but did you not think to bring it up before quitting if it was such a big factor in your leaving? You'd have decent clout with your manager's manager in making sure he doesn't micromanage or give passive aggressive comments.
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