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Re: Saffron as an Antidepressant (2018)

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Post by mike503 » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 9:53 PM UTC

pazimzadeh wrote: post #51

codelord wrote: post #10

I feel like people in the west need to become more familiar with Persian cooking. Every year I learn that one more ingredient that we commonly use in Persian cooking is good for your health. So based on this definitive evidence I'm gonna conclude everything we eat is good for you. To get you ahead here are some other things to try: 1. Sabzi Khordan: Elevate your breakfast with Sabzi Khordan, a mixed of herbs that are…

Totally agree. Berberine, found in Barberries, seems to have very interesting properties: Cancer fighting: MDM2 inhibition-mediated autophagy contributes to the pro-apoptotic effect of berberine in p53-null leukemic cells https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31881227 Synergistic antitumor effect of melatonin with several chemotherapeutic drugs on human Ewing sarcoma cancer cells: potentiation of the extrinsic apoptoti…

I was taking berberine, it can wreck your stomach if you don’t take it with some food, I was advised that by my doctor and then realized why. I was only taking it once a day too.

Re: Saffron as an Antidepressant (2018)

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Post by jpster » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 10:04 PM UTC

newhotelowner wrote: post #49

selimthegrim wrote: post #12

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It can be hard to find the right cheese for sabzi khordan. Also some people find drinking tea out of the saucer weird.

> Also some people find drinking tea out of the saucer weird. I love drinking out of the saucer. It taste different than drinking from a cup. It taste different drinking from a stainless steel cup vs glass cup too. My favorite saucer is Corelle butterfly gold.

I was very interested in Laura Ingalls Wilder when I was younger, as a result of reading her Little House on the Prairie books. An anecdote about her father, Charles “Pa” Ingalls drinking from the saucer always stayed with me. Thanks for teaching me that saucer drinking is still alive and well. https://henscratches.wordpress.com/2017/01/18/wilder-wednesd...

Re: Saffron as an Antidepressant (2018)

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Post by wisty » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 10:08 PM UTC

ummonk wrote: post #52

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #35

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I still want to try Japanese Natto but can't find it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D Supposed to taste quite bad for Westerners.

Having tried stinky tofu and been unable to stand it, I stay away from anything similar. I rely on aged cheese to get my bacteria byproducts (esp. Vitamin K2).

Stinky tofu is like the blue cheese of tofus. It's quite nice.

Natto ... I'm not such a fan.

Re: Saffron as an Antidepressant (2018)

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Post by andy_ppp » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 10:17 PM UTC

ummonk wrote: post #52

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #35

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I still want to try Japanese Natto but can't find it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D Supposed to taste quite bad for Westerners.

Having tried stinky tofu and been unable to stand it, I stay away from anything similar. I rely on aged cheese to get my bacteria byproducts (esp. Vitamin K2).

Stinky tofu in Taiwan smelt as though someone had burried their colostomy bag (adding maybe rubbish and some milk to curdle it) for a couple of months and opened it at the dinner table. Fetid doesn’t even cover it. I’m amazed you ate it. Natto by comparison is just a bit like gross cheese.

Re: Saffron as an Antidepressant (2018)

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Post by okprod » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 10:19 PM UTC

cyberpunk wrote: post #23

angrais wrote: post #16

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Why does where you drink from it matter, let alone its transparency?

Dunno about Persian style tea; but the pu’erh I often drink tastes significantly better from a sake cup vs a “normal” double walled bodum tea glass. I can’t really explain why, cup shape does affect hiw much you drink per sip, maybe the nose is involved.. Or it’s all bollocks and completely in my head. Either way, sake cup is the way to go for puerh ;)

Real puerh is very good for you. Anecdotal obviously but descendants on my father's side eat healthy and drink a lot of puerh daily, regularly live to 100+.

Re: Saffron as an Antidepressant (2018)

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Post by cwkoss » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 10:22 PM UTC

cwkoss wrote: post #6

I think the psychoactive effects of dietary ingredients are really interesting, and an area of research that deserves more attention. "Even in their usual intake range, a variety of spices including vanilla, black pepper, cacao, chili peppers, cloves, saffron, cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, and turmeric have been described as having mild effects on mood" https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2019.0059... I th…

Also plausible that a significant source of variance in pharmacological drugs' effects are due to differences in diet.

Ex. are there statistically significant differences in the effects of SSRIs between patients with (high || low) use of black pepper/turmeric in their diets?

Re: Saffron as an Antidepressant (2018)

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Post by OJFord » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 10:34 PM UTC

angrais wrote: post #16

codelord wrote: post #15

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Saucer is optional. I drink directly from the cup. Make sure the cup is made of clear glass though to see the color of the tea.

Why does where you drink from it matter, let alone its transparency?

Do you drink wine, or anything where you even occasionally care how 'open' the glass is? A saucer's way more open than a cup. I'm sure there are vicious debates over flutes vs. saucers on champagne-appreciation.net forums or whatever!

Not at all the same, but texture too. Meringues are I think the best example of that.

Re: Saffron as an Antidepressant (2018)

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Post by OJFord » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 10:45 PM UTC

FabHK wrote: post #48

Fun fact: (maybe!) Saffron is, per unit of weight, the most expensive thing you can buy in many supermarkets. (That's my conjecture after noticing that the saffron in German supermarkets is about 10,000 to 30,000 EUR/kg, or 68,000 for the bio certified, hand picked, from a women-run enterprise: https://shop.rewe.de/p/herbaria-safran-faeden/VJ7R7E3DA ) Any other contenders?

By weight?! Wow yeah, by far surely. Though by some sort of hand-wavy measure of 'amount you use', vanilla might take the lead.

Ignoring the whopping (!) 10g bulk buy, cheapest I can get from Ocado in the UK is £4.68 for a gram. Vanilla pods start at £3 each (and no cheaper on Amazon other than in big bags, happened to be looking recently) and when you use one you use one; whereas the saffron probably won't be used all at once, again for a hand-wavy notion of 'similar sort of style/quantity' thing (despite obviously being totally different if one has vanilla and the other saffron..).

Re: Saffron as an Antidepressant (2018)

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Post by knicholes » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 10:55 PM UTC

codelord wrote: post #10

I feel like people in the west need to become more familiar with Persian cooking. Every year I learn that one more ingredient that we commonly use in Persian cooking is good for your health. So based on this definitive evidence I'm gonna conclude everything we eat is good for you. To get you ahead here are some other things to try: 1. Sabzi Khordan: Elevate your breakfast with Sabzi Khordan, a mixed of herbs that are…

Wouldn't we be able to look at societies that ate certain foods to see if they lived longer/more healthy lives? I think that'd be a smoking gun for which foods have the most beneficial ingredients.

Re: Saffron as an Antidepressant (2018)

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Post by trainsplanes » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 10:57 PM UTC

andy_ppp wrote: post #64

ummonk wrote: post #52

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Having tried stinky tofu and been unable to stand it, I stay away from anything similar. I rely on aged cheese to get my bacteria byproducts (esp. Vitamin K2).

Stinky tofu in Taiwan smelt as though someone had burried their colostomy bag (adding maybe rubbish and some milk to curdle it) for a couple of months and opened it at the dinner table. Fetid doesn’t even cover it. I’m amazed you ate it. Natto by comparison is just a bit like gross cheese.

Stinky tofu smells a little funky, but once you take a bite, it’s juicy and savory. Taiwanese stuff definitely stinks more, but the mainland Chinese varieties don’t really stink at all and retain a savory taste.

Natto literally has the smell and slimy, sticky texture of, well, semen. It’s easy to wonder whether someone left a bunch of used tissues out or if they simply forgot to toss out their used natto package.