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Play Button: a wearable, uneditable album

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Re: Play Button: a wearable, uneditable album

#31

That is a BRILLIANT IDEA! Such a great way to swap/share music with people too. I hope it takes off.

It would be really great if the buttons had two headphone jacks for sharing with somebody...

"You’re much better off to take one of your earbuds out and put it in her ear. Then you’re connected with about two feet of headphone cable."

- Steve Jobs (http://37signals.com/svn/posts/52-steve-jobs-just-put-it-in-...)

Re: Play Button: a wearable, uneditable album

#32
post #19

Cute. I think the main market is for promotional items - freebies, giveaways. Have to bring the price down as low as possible for that to take off. A regular button costs maybe 10-25 cents.

Why? What they're selling is not just the novelty, but the scarcity of an object. Treating these like talking greeting cards is like treating art as paper and ink.

Art can only be art when it's scarce? I do believe you'll find a lot of artists that disagree with you.

Re: Play Button: a wearable, uneditable album

#33
post #19

Cute. I think the main market is for promotional items - freebies, giveaways. Have to bring the price down as low as possible for that to take off. A regular button costs maybe 10-25 cents.

Why? What they're selling is not just the novelty, but the scarcity of an object. Treating these like talking greeting cards is like treating art as paper and ink.

It is novel. So novel, perhaps, that people won't be willing to pay a lot of money for it. Coin cell batteries won't last long playing albums, and are expensive to replace. The value proposition just isn't there for the end-user except for very limited novelty purposes.

However, it might be there for people who essentially want to advertise their real product (perhaps a CD release, perhaps something else). Sell these at cost or give them away to promote your event or new album? I can see that.

Oh, I see one of the news articles says rechargeable lithium battery. That's good for short-term usability, bad for cost. And it puts an absolute limit on the life of the item at about three years, when all lithium batteries die permanently and it won't be replaceable.

"Hey kids, look what I found in the attic! This cool album from the 'teens, it's built right into a button! Let's see.... oh, darn, the battery is permanently dead and can't be replaced." {tosses into the trash}

Re: Play Button: a wearable, uneditable album

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post #32
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? What they're selling is not just the novelty, but the scarcity of an object. Treating these like talking greeting cards is like treating art as paper and ink.

Art can only be art when it's scarce? I do believe you'll find a lot of artists that disagree with you.

They'd certainly disagree with the person who said that, but it doesn't seem to be me. Sorry for the snark, but you're putting words into my mouth: I said that scarcity has value, hence the popularity of 'limited runs' of prints and albums. No judgment about what is or isn't art included.

Re: Play Button: a wearable, uneditable album

#35
This is so close to being awesome. I threw this link to a musician friend of mine when it showed up on Metafilter a while back, and we felt like it was so ALMOST there.

We felt like it wants to be cheaper, and wants to have a USB port so you can put the album you just paid $20 for into all your other devices. (Or a one-time use code to download it.) Then you can stick it on your backpack like any other button, maybe loan it to a friend you want to expose to the act.

Either that or load them with a copy of the concert you just saw. $20 for an item only available at the merch table for a single tour isn't very different from t-shirts; having a physical record of the whole show would be pretty cool.

But as something sold over the Internet for $20+shipping? It's cool but that's like twice the cost of a normal album. The form factor just feels like it wants to be an impulse buy, with impulse pricing.

(And on the other hand... I just paid $3 for a digital download of the new Glitch Mob EP. But I could have spent up to $55 on it to acquire a poster, a T-shirt, and a vinyl copy along with my download. I could see a Deluxe Package that included a Playbutton. As a cool bauble for the True Fans with a really good cashflow, it's not so bad.)

(There is a good chance that they're also so damn expensive because they're made in limited quantities, possibly by the same people who run the site. I drew a Tarot deck a couple years ago; you can get it now for $20 because I found a publisher who got it printed in China, but when I was making the things myself I charged $150 for them.)

Re: Play Button: a wearable, uneditable album

#38
post #34
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Art can only be art when it's scarce? I do believe you'll find a lot of artists that disagree with you.

They'd certainly disagree with the person who said that, but it doesn't seem to be me. Sorry for the snark, but you're putting words into my mouth: I said that scarcity has value, hence the popularity of 'limited runs' of prints and albums. No judgment about what is or isn't art included.

Partially. But you also said that:

>Treating these like talking greeting cards is like treating art as paper and ink.

Which is pretty clearly implying talking greeting cards are not art. And since I doubt you're claiming novelty == art, and the only other thing you mentioned was scarcity...

A weak connection on closer examination, I'll admit.

Re: Play Button: a wearable, uneditable album

#39
post #6

This will only work if they can cultivate collectors, either for their products specifically, or from the artists they work with. Because they take up so much space, they have to be something you'd want to show off. In other words, because they are obviously functionally deficient, there has to be some other mechanism to make them desirable. Obviously I can listen to an album all the way through on a small iPod, or b…

I love that music has become so portable that you could actually complain that this form factor takes up too much space.

Here's a list of album formats that were around before MP3s, all of which are larger in size than a button:

  CD
  Minidisc
  Cassette Tape
  8-Track Tape
  Reel-to-Reel Tape
  Record
  Wax Tube
With only one exception above, music storage has gotten smaller with every new format. At this point it's essentially zero. Still, if you told a kid from the 80s that his whole wall of cassette tapes would one day fit in a McDonalds bag full of buttons, he'd be pretty stoked.

Re: Play Button: a wearable, uneditable album

#40

I think this could be huge after concerts, especially if combined with a recording of the performance the fans have just listened to.

My thoughts exactly.

I can't see this being a big hit with retail music. The main use in my mind would be as PR tools, either sending promotional badges to journalists etc or as novelty items containing already released music to be sold at events. It's hard to think how else people would be willing to put down $15-$25 for something so unnecessary.

Recording live concerts for release after the show, however, is something I've been interested in a long time. Given that track skipping isn't possible on a Play Button, you wouldn't have to slice the recording into tracks before release. I'd even be so bold as to say you could get these out on sale within half an hour of the concert finishing.

For bigger concerts these would make a great souvenir and a decent source of income for artists.

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