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Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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This sounds like it might be good thing for the company. Having employees who have extra capacity is incredibly important for an organization that wants to get things done; if you're constantly hard at work on something important, when something else comes up (someone has a question, there's a bug or an outage, whatever), you either have to delay the thing you're already working on, or delay the thing that came up. T…

I used to work a tech support job overnight. Some nights I'd take two calls.

This was expected for the reasons you noted. When there was an emergency someone needed to be idle in the first place so they could immediately respond fully focused.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

#113
Think of it this way. If you can get away with so little work while being recognized as a solid contributor, you must be extremely competent: where a newbie sounds the entire day on busywork to find a solution, you just see the solution and spend the rest 7 hours reading HN. Also, when was the last time your manager approached you with a conversation "hey, out company is doing much better, so we wanted to double your pay and give you this expense card to pay for flights, hotels and restaurants, wherever those might be"? The company isn't seeking an opportunity to spend more money on you, so you should be doing the same. It's just a business relationship.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in which case, this style of work is OK and should be accepted instead of shamed

Just because something is profitable for the employers does not mean it is ethically or morally right.

i don't understand what's immoral in this case?

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

#115
If your employer is happy with you, there is no reason to 'feel guilty'.

Being competent (top 20%) and working 3hrs / day is way more productive than a middle performer working 12 hrs / day.

In my personal experience:

I work with people that, in 5 minutes, I can accomplish more than they can in a day. And those people are not stupid / unmotivated.

I also work with people that, in 5 minutes, can accomplish more than I can in a day. I'm not stupid, or unmotivated.

Some people are just more experienced, have better judgement, are smarter etc.

Output is what counts, not time.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

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post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in which case, this style of work is OK and should be accepted instead of shamed

Just because something is profitable for the employers does not mean it is ethically or morally right.

In the past I’ve hired engineers on a per hour basis; we agree on the hour count while we plan the tasks.

Sometimes it takes them more hours than we planned, sometimes less, but our contract stays the same. There is nothing moral/amoral around them being efficient or padding their estimates IMHO.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

#119

Congrats! You have found a comfortable job. Also my condolences, you've found a comfortable job. Jobs like these are a warm and cozy trap. If you're spending time reading blogs you may not be spending your time in a way you can look back on with pride. Time is your ultimate limited resource and the one thing you will regret not spending more wisely. Depending on your risk tolerance I recommend: 1. Quit, start a compa…

having extra time makes 5) harder, not easier!

I don't necessarily agree with that.

Having free time enables you to either upskill yourself and to move to a more lucrative position later, or perhaps even work on side projects.

Some people freelance and both get practical skills and an additional source of income (even though a somewhat inconsistent one), whereas others enjoy trying to create their own SaaS solutions which could serve as a passive income, in the age of widespread web APIs and things like Stripe making payment processing easier.

Heck, some people actually enjoy doing things that are completely unrelated to the ICT sector, so woodworking/carpentry/farming and so on could also be both nice sources of income, as well as a way of getting some fresh air and/or exercise in an otherwise sedentary lifestyle.

Of course, even if some of the free time is spent not generating income but instead doing stuff like working out, that could also both improve one's quality of life and also cut down medical expenses, as well as indirectly make them more productive at their regular work due to better alertness, which may or may not further contribute to how effectively they can use those hours that they have.

Re: Ask HN: Feeling guilty for doing the bare minimum at work

#120
Slack is our natural born right.

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> Sex and the avoidance of work are taught as two key ways to gain Slack.

> Davidoff believes that Slack is "the ability to effortlessly achieve your goals". Cusack states that the Church's description of Slack as ineffable recalls the way that Tao is described, and Kirby calls Slack a "unique magical system".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius#Conspi...

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> Unlike those Christians and their tirades about Original Sin, The Church teaches us that all of us, humans and SubGenii alike, are born with Original Slack. As part of their mission to suppress and subjugate the SubGenii, The Conspiracy starts stealing your Slack from the day you are born.

https://subgenius.fandom.com/wiki/Slack

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