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Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

StevePerkins wrote: post #209
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #159

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I think it would be but I also would like forced time off as well. As well as forced socializing with team mates. And a sabbatical every 5 years or so. But if I can find a job with full health benefits that lets me work three days a week, I'm going for it. Heck, that is the best argument in favor of universal healthcare. It would help unemployment, because way more people would be working part time.

> As well as forced socializing with team mates. One of these things is not like the other... I can tolerate the occasional "mandatory fun" corporate event, but only within reason (e.g. I have kids, so don't give me grief for leaving early). And I think the entire "work hard play hard" office culture, where you're expected to do happy hour everyday and build your social life around co-workers in order to prove you're…

I was thinking along the lines of a fun day during working hours, where everyone who lives near by should come in. Holiday party, Icecream Social, Even just a day of meetings with breakfast and lunch included. Basically give people a few work days a year where they are expected to be there, but not really get anything done.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by dharmab »

HWR_14 wrote: post #223
ericbarrett wrote: post #175

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Does it draw your vacation time? Mandatory vacations (especially around Christmas) were started in the early 2000s among Bay Area tech companies in order to reduce collective accrued PTO, reducing liability on the balance sheet—had nothing to do with worker health. Although that regime is certainly preferable to so-called "unlimited" PTO.

Unlimited PTO would be great - if combined with worker protections so that you couldn't get fired for actually taking time off. By which I mean real time. Like a month or more.

I'm working a total of 7 nonconsecutive days in the next 30. Does that count?

EDIT: Might be less. I forgot to count some other holidays.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by anoncake »

HWR_14 wrote: post #223
ericbarrett wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it draw your vacation time? Mandatory vacations (especially around Christmas) were started in the early 2000s among Bay Area tech companies in order to reduce collective accrued PTO, reducing liability on the balance sheet—had nothing to do with worker health. Although that regime is certainly preferable to so-called "unlimited" PTO.

Unlimited PTO would be great - if combined with worker protections so that you couldn't get fired for actually taking time off. By which I mean real time. Like a month or more.

But unlimited PTO + you can't get fired for taking it means you aren't obligated to show up for work ever.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by jkhdigital »

MattGaiser wrote: post #132
jkhdigital wrote: post #51

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Yeah, my personal experience over the past 18 months has led to some changes in how I view the structure of work. I don’t get burned out from working too much; I get burned out from having to make constant decisions about what I’m going to work on and how I’m going to do it. For me lack of structure is the primary source of burnout, not workload. The flexibility of working from home is nice, but not enough to make up…

Are you someone who likes firm boundaries between work and life?

I wouldn't say I like boundaries; it's just that without them my mental health suffers greatly. And I'm terrible at constructing and enforcing those boundaries on my own.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by rektide »

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Shout out to Laura Hogan's late-April "We Need To Talk About Your Q3 Roadmap"[1], which talks about taking care of workers just starting to make it out of a crazy pandemic year.

[1] https://larahogan.me/blog/we-need-to-talk-about-your-q3-road...

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by HWR_14 »

anoncake wrote: post #233
HWR_14 wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlimited PTO would be great - if combined with worker protections so that you couldn't get fired for actually taking time off. By which I mean real time. Like a month or more.

But unlimited PTO + you can't get fired for taking it means you aren't obligated to show up for work ever.

If unlimited PTO wasn't just an accounting (and psychological) trick to screw workers out of accumulated vacation time, this might concern me. If they want limited PTO, that's fine. It should just be spelled out.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by HWR_14 »

dharmab wrote: post #232
HWR_14 wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlimited PTO would be great - if combined with worker protections so that you couldn't get fired for actually taking time off. By which I mean real time. Like a month or more.

I'm working a total of 7 nonconsecutive days in the next 30. Does that count? EDIT: Might be less. I forgot to count some other holidays.

Where do you work and do they allow telecommuting? (I assume you're being paid regularly over those 30 days)

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by silicon2401 »

crispyambulance wrote: post #82
silicon2401 wrote: post #22

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This is a very subjective statement. The pandemic has been bar none the best period of my life. Increased physical and social distance from other people, no need to emote in public thanks to masks, no need to commute, greater accommodation for non-social options like self-checkouts. My physical and mental health have skyrocketed, and as a result I feel like I've been on vacation for a year and half, despite only taki…

Being an introvert does NOT mean having unreadable or negative "resting face" expressions, nor does it mean dreading routine interaction with other humans, and it ESPECIALLY is not anything like "misanthropic". What some of you people are describing sound more like autism or some kinds of personality disorders. That's very different from introversion--- which roughly half of the population could be categorized as.

How do you define misanthropy? A quick google search says the following: "Misanthropy is the general hatred, dislike, distrust or contempt of the human species, human behavior or human nature." That applies to me, which is why I dislike being around people that aren't loved ones, and why I've enjoyed the lockdown world where extra systems have emerged to keep people away from me. People with autism may or may not feel similarly, I can't say. I don't have problems socializing, I just dislike people.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by allochthon »

bern4444 wrote: post #152
allochthon wrote: post #138

I've been working remotely for about five years, now, and I love it. I've always been curious about working at Twitter and Google, and I was vaguely hoping that they'd start looking at full-time remote hires across their engineering orgs. I value remote work more than I do the possibility of working at Twitter or Google, so it is a little wistfully that I realize I might never follow up on that curiosity.

Twitter allows for full time remote. They were one of the first companies to announce it with COVID [0] [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/10/01/twitter...

I was trying to make sense of these lines from the article. I probably misunderstood.

> Twitter has said that it expects a majority of its staff to spend some time working remotely and some time in the office. That's despite its boss Jack Dorsey initially saying that employees could work from home "forever".

> And Google rejigged its timetable for bringing people back to the workplace. As of 1 September, employees wishing to work from home for more than 14 days a year would have to apply to do so.

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