Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break • Hacker News Board

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 2:18 PM UTC

ramesh31 wrote: post #69

silicon2401 wrote: post #22

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This is a very subjective statement. The pandemic has been bar none the best period of my life. Increased physical and social distance from other people, no need to emote in public thanks to masks, no need to commute, greater accommodation for non-social options like self-checkouts. My physical and mental health have skyrocketed, and as a result I feel like I've been on vacation for a year and half, despite only taki…

I've never been so envious of happily married people in my life. Being single throughout this ordeal has broken me mentally, particularly at an age (31) where I'm staring down the last couple years of being able to meet someone my age. And the prospects coming out of it are grim. For people with a happy home life, this may have been a good time. But for the isolated, work from home, single people with no long term so…

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Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by crispyambulance » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 2:18 PM UTC

silicon2401 wrote: post #22

asim wrote: post #2

Good. We're taking all of July off at my company. Why? Because covid was an incredibly hard period for all of us and we as humans need a break. Somehow we all just seem to expect things to keep going like nothing changed. We all just seem to be expected to gloss over the pains of isolation, potential death and stress of work and life with no separation or boundaries. We made a conscious decision at my place of work t…

This is a very subjective statement. The pandemic has been bar none the best period of my life. Increased physical and social distance from other people, no need to emote in public thanks to masks, no need to commute, greater accommodation for non-social options like self-checkouts. My physical and mental health have skyrocketed, and as a result I feel like I've been on vacation for a year and half, despite only taki…

Being an introvert does NOT mean having unreadable or negative "resting face" expressions, nor does it mean dreading routine interaction with other humans, and it ESPECIALLY is not anything like "misanthropic".

What some of you people are describing sound more like autism or some kinds of personality disorders. That's very different from introversion--- which roughly half of the population could be categorized as.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by golergka » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 2:19 PM UTC

ramesh31 wrote: post #69

silicon2401 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very subjective statement. The pandemic has been bar none the best period of my life. Increased physical and social distance from other people, no need to emote in public thanks to masks, no need to commute, greater accommodation for non-social options like self-checkouts. My physical and mental health have skyrocketed, and as a result I feel like I've been on vacation for a year and half, despite only taki…

I've never been so envious of happily married people in my life. Being single throughout this ordeal has broken me mentally, particularly at an age (31) where I'm staring down the last couple years of being able to meet someone my age. And the prospects coming out of it are grim. For people with a happy home life, this may have been a good time. But for the isolated, work from home, single people with no long term so…

> particularly at an age (31) where I'm staring down the last couple years of being able to meet someone

What?

I'm 33, only a few months into my current relationship, and I have to say that dating is so much better at this age than it ever was.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by baud147258 » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 2:20 PM UTC

Symbiote wrote: post #71

barbazoo wrote: post #24

> collective burnout > fortnightly manicures, hair trims and "blowouts" which the founder said showed "appreciation for our busy bees" > Working hours? Not nine to five apparently. Employees can choose the hours they want, just as long as the work gets done It's all just a bunch of BS. Give your employees reasonable time off policies and encourage them to actually take time off instead of letting them get burned out…

Judging by their recruitment page, they have a large office in London. I don't know about Bumble, but some of my friends in the UK have found the past year very tough. The UK has had strict restrictions on socialising, travel away from home, even being outdoors. For months at a time, my siblings have been unable to visit my parents! I can see the benefit of a company saying "let's all take this week off". It allows h…

> no-one was shouted at by police for taking a walk too far from home

I remember my brother and sister-in-law getting shouted at for holding hands in Paris last year... Yeah, covid had been hard on everyone

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

crsv wrote: post #78

joegahona wrote: post #4

I would love to know how they are measuring the success of this measure -- and I'm not being cynical. How would one even begin to weigh the tradeoffs of closing business for everyone for an entire week against the increased productivity upon return and something woolly like "improved morale." What if giving everyone a week of twice a year was actually beneficial to the company? Or even quarterly? Many companies alrea…

At a (perhaps generous) average of $120K per employee, a week off would cost $1.5MM - given how broadly this will get picked up and circulated in the media, it'll get more eyeballs than 1.5MM spent on mobile or search ads most likely.

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Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by woobar » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

Liquidor wrote: post #45

alimbada wrote: post #40

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One week in addition to normal holiday allowance.

Which is how much...?

I don't work or use Bumble, but a quick search says they have 3 weeks of vacation and 12 holidays. Which is at or above average for US.

My company gives 3 weeks to new hires plus another week around Christmas. They gave us an extra Covid week and everyone sure appreciates it.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by bgroat » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

ramesh31 wrote: post #69

silicon2401 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very subjective statement. The pandemic has been bar none the best period of my life. Increased physical and social distance from other people, no need to emote in public thanks to masks, no need to commute, greater accommodation for non-social options like self-checkouts. My physical and mental health have skyrocketed, and as a result I feel like I've been on vacation for a year and half, despite only taki…

I've never been so envious of happily married people in my life. Being single throughout this ordeal has broken me mentally, particularly at an age (31) where I'm staring down the last couple years of being able to meet someone my age. And the prospects coming out of it are grim. For people with a happy home life, this may have been a good time. But for the isolated, work from home, single people with no long term so…

I'm one of those happily married people and my heart has been going out to people like you the whole time.

It's an incredible blessing to have been locked-in and had 24/7 support from someone I love and I wish you had it too.

Sorry you had to face this alone.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by jcadam » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

deregulateMed wrote: post #56

I never found vacations to be useful for burnout. What does work for me is having a 40 hour work week. If I'm doing the same job for 50+ hrs/week, I start to dread the work. That said, this is drastic, seems like something other than burnout is going on.

switching to a new project (or job) is generally the best thing for burnout as a dev.

But a vacation is good for other reasons.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by ramesh31 » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

golergka wrote: post #83

ramesh31 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never been so envious of happily married people in my life. Being single throughout this ordeal has broken me mentally, particularly at an age (31) where I'm staring down the last couple years of being able to meet someone my age. And the prospects coming out of it are grim. For people with a happy home life, this may have been a good time. But for the isolated, work from home, single people with no long term so…

> particularly at an age (31) where I'm staring down the last couple years of being able to meet someone What? I'm 33, only a few months into my current relationship, and I have to say that dating is so much better at this age than it ever was.

>I'm 33, only a few months into my current relationship, and I have to say that dating is so much better at this age than it ever was.

You can get lucky. There are certainly unicorns out there. Or you can date younger, if you're ok with that. But by and large, women and men work on different timelines. And you don't realize this as a man until it hits. The vast majority of women are out of the dating pool by 30. And by this age, you've both ossified into separate individuals with rigid expectations and assumptions about life, which makes the flexibility needed to build a real lasting connection infinitely harder.

Re: Bumble closes to give 'burnt-out' staff a week's break

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Post by CharlesW » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

bin_bash wrote: post #66

hh3k0 wrote: post #33

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> no need to emote in public thanks to masks I will miss that. I liked not being told that I look angry or that I should smile sometimes.

I’m curious, are you female? I don’t think I’ve ever been asked that unless I was unbelievably angry. Like maybe once or twice in my entire adult life.

Speaking from personal experience, this happens to male humans as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resting_bitch_face: "Using a type of facial recognition system, they found that the phenomenon is real and the condition is as common in males as in females, despite the gendered word bitch that is used to name the concept."