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I feel like naming things is something Apple works really hard on. And why they place so much emphasis on it in their keynotes, when they use the phrase "And we're calling it ..."
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Phone lines have this solved. You don't need to be on ATT to call someone on ATT. I don't get what's the deal with the messaging platforms. I hope some regulation forces interoperability.
Meanwhile you can move to Matrix; it breaks into quite some walled gardens: https://matrix.org/bridges/
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I’m not sure how true it is, but the common refrain I keep seeing on HN and elsewhere is that Google’s promotion track incentivizes new products over maintaining and expanding current products.
That's the common refrain, but making a new product doesn't put it front and center at a Google I/O keynote or push it as the official new Google strategy. You'd think that C-level executives have a word on what is announced in keynotes, etc.
It doesn't automatically put it front and centre at I/O, but as it's certain Google will want something to highlight which makes working on a new product is a fairly sensible idea if that's your goal. Innovating or maintaining an existing one is a lot less marketable.
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Which service do you use for CalDAV / CardDAV? I've been trying to migrate from a gmail account to my own personal domain, but my current provider doesn't support those so I want to move on to someone else. The thing that annoys me most is that (as far as I can tell) only the big name providers have integrated mail/caldav/carddav, if you use a bring-your-own-domain solution they need to be added as 3 separate account…
+1 I've been looking for a sane calendar service that's not Google calendar and there's just nothing that's open-standards compatible.
There's a couple of other good CalDAV servers out there too, though of course as Fastmail CEO I can't really advertise anybody else :p
No, just no.
I don't want to open my email to then hit a chat tab to message my brother. They must be separate apps; it's messy when they try to cram everything into one app, there's even Meet there now.
(So there's a separate Google Chat app as well, but that's not mentioned at all in the Hangouts messaging, so I can only assume it's another dead project#. Functionality was awful and clunky when I tried it at some stage before).
Whoever's come up with this has absolutely no idea how their products are being used in the real world.
Looking for an alternative now that's not eg Facebook. Not sure about Discord, due to security. Not too keen on Signal due to ease of use, but might end up on that.
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Edit: Signal is looking much nicer on the mobile than I recalled, sharing multiple pictures is really easy! This might be the go to.
#Also checked again on "Google Chat", still buggy (tried sharing multiple pics, weird behaviour) - but at least it's got a dark background now, so appears to be in dev - even though they'd like us to Chat in Gmail..
Google as an inovative company with amazing things to try died almost a decade ago. Today its more or less IBM. Would you try IBMs new chat app?
There's so many counter examples to this though... E.g. Stadia, which a lot of people doubted would be technically possible at all.
You work for Google; there may be some bias here.
>E.g. Stadia, which a lot of people doubted would be technically possible at all.
Technically impossible? Really? I don't think anyone held doubt. Perhaps people figured it'd be expensive to develop but certainly not impossible.
His peers -- Satya Nadella, Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, and Mark Zuckerberg -- all deeply understand and concern themselves with their companies' respective places in the world. They think twenty years into the future and frequently take risks to mitigate a changing landscape and position themselves for future wins.
Sundar Pichai isn't one to make bold bets. His company is a fat pig suckling on ad money. Google itself is completely drunk, comatose.
Google needs bold leadership. If nothing changes, it will eventually fall into decline and become a footnote.
Not only can this happen, it's already happened many times before.
I tried so hard to integrate into the Google ecosystem. I had a Gmail account and Google Talk to start. Eventually an Android phone, on Project Fi, with Hangouts and SMS (so I could send SMS over the internet). I upgraded from Gmail to Inbox. Then when they ditched that for Allo and Duo I tried to switch to those. Then I lost SMS on my computer because it got removed from Hangouts. Then I tried to switch to Google vo…
In a way its a blessing for other smaller companies to perform better. Dinosaurs may have all the money in the world but it does not make them better in execution.
They forgot about Inbox! After following this nonsense product timeline for 16 years from the original Google Talk days, my last chat thread still using Hangouts moved to Facebook Messenger. chat.google.com is just aggressively worse in far too many ways, and will surely be killed circa 2024.
Isn't Inbox just an email client? > chat.google.com is just aggressively worse in far too many ways, and will surely be killed circa 2024. I doubt it. Google Chat is Google's enterprise product offering like Microsoft's skype.
Yeah, at our company we have actually used Google Chat somewhat succesfully as main tool for internal communication
I still see "Rooms" in my Gmail window.