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Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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I can't remember the last time I used Windows search because it's worse than useless - there have been multiple occasions in the past where it can't even find a file in the current folder right in front of my eyes. Nowadays I just use Everything which I think is one of the best piece of software ever.

Thanks. Hadn’t heard of this before.

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

#182
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people still expect modern software to run at incredible speeds on hard disk drives? Run old technology with old software. It is ridiculous that consumer hardware is still being sold with crappy 5400 RPM disks in 2021. No, I have no interest in optimising my software for speeds that are 1/10th of my broadband. Unless we're talking archival or huge storage necessities, stop complaining about modern OS or games…

> Do you expect Windows 10 to run on a Pentium II with 512MB RAM as well, because some version of Linux does? ...Yes? What is it doing that wouldn't fit in those constraints?

I do not absolutely get this obtuse question.

It is not my place to justify why modern software is so inefficient, pointing the finger to Windows 10 in particular as if it's an outlier.

Why are YOU using inefficient languages, heavyweight virtual machines, GB sized binaries, Electron and Javascript to write your applications? Why is your boss asking to add feature upon feature upon feature? There is a reason we're in this place, but until then, my point is, stop complaining everything is slow on your old PC. You know exactly why that is, and it is your fault as much as mine.

It's because of us, software engineers, that everything is slow, so it is completely hypocritical that on HN of all places one has to explain that sadly to run modern software one needs modern hardware.

We've put ourselves in this situation and now there's a lot of surprised Pikachu faces around, complaining about Windows getting slower and alt-tabbing to their day job writing yet another crappy Javascript abstraction layer on their shiny M1 MBP.

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

#183
post #9

On my current gaming PC (i7-7700) I have installed W10 in 2017 and... no problem whatsoever? SSD, 10s boot. idk how do people end up with all the problems. I'm really curious because there must be an underlying reason

In part, the way the author does. Turning off sensible default like fast booting and layering on complexity for the sake of complexity like Hyper-V.

The desire to criticize Windows also helps…I mean the boot time for my iPhone is much much worse than anything the author measured. My upgrade times are probably at least as bad,too. And Siri search requires an internet connect.

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

#184
post #24

I can't remember the last time I used Windows search because it's worse than useless - there have been multiple occasions in the past where it can't even find a file in the current folder right in front of my eyes. Nowadays I just use Everything which I think is one of the best piece of software ever.

An important thing that it took me a long time to realize is it doesn't search file names by default, only file contents. To search by name you have to use the 'name:' prefix. This is nonsense, but it's also easy to overcome once you know about it.

Off topic, but is Google Drive search this way too?

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

#185

I built a Windows PC after 3 years of using my 15 inch 2018 MBP (which is by far the worst machine I have owned considering the price). Windows has gone to shit, I have visual glitches in the UI using dark mode (even the search box on bottom left doesn't render correctly in dark mode until I hover it). They preinstall some shitty "news" bar right there on the task bar and hide disabling it behind a submenu of a right…

Windows has gone to shit I feel the same way and it makes me sad. I've kept a death-grip on Windows 7 in hopes there would be a Windows 11 one day despite all the naive "last version ever" messaging. Now it's been announced, and I pray it's more than just a paint job. My asks are simple: more stability, better performance, and axed telemetry.

Didn’t Microsoft backport telemetry into Windows 7? You’ve got several of the same privacy issues as Windows 10 without the security improvements.

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just wait, one day you will have an update to linux and suddenly your whole system wont boot. This doesn't happen often, I've only had it happen 2 or 3 times in 10 years. It is good practice to have a restore thumbdrive around ready to go just in case.

The amount of times that my manjaro installation broke itself after a "full" system upgrade lacked appropriate gpu driver updates... From an OS that supposedly uses upstream Arch repos as a sort of guinea pig and waits until the dust settles upstream to roll out the updates. After a while it gets old to have to press shift and advanced-boot-options my way into the older kernel. Both Windows and Linux are not perfect.…

you can't possibly compare Manjaro to Windows.

Manjaro is a rolling release distribution!! What do you think will happen under this model? It's the same issues as Arch and Gentoo.

Consider Debian instead, where upgrading is always viable but doesn't just happen randomly. My current Debian install dates back to _etch_ when it was frozen to hit stable. Years later I'm on testing for bullseye, on newer hardware, and everything is fine. Never any issues upgrading from stable to stable, only went to testing because I started needing newer libs for my GPU.

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

#188
post #24

I can't remember the last time I used Windows search because it's worse than useless - there have been multiple occasions in the past where it can't even find a file in the current folder right in front of my eyes. Nowadays I just use Everything which I think is one of the best piece of software ever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_(software) https://www.voidtools.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=590 This is closed source software (Freeware) as far as I can tell. I realize you're already on MS Windows, but downloading a binary blob from some third party that's reading all files on your system seems a little too trusting.

Voidtools is well known and really good.

I've been using them for years now.

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

#189
All I know is my Win 10 Pro laptop has 16gb RAM, yet if an application, most likely Google Chrome, uses more than about 4-5gb, it crashes.

Yep, it's a lot of tabs. But not as many as you think, and often without warning, as certain ad-heavy sites, especially forum sites (flyertalk, rennlist), can sometimes require 1gb RAM alone.

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

#190
post #146

Disappointed I didn't see fairly reasonable explanations around processor security bugs which impact broad system performance such as Spectre and Meltdown. This has a significant impact on Linux and Microsoft has even outlined that these fixes impact their performance (there have been many more security bugs identified since): https://www.microsoft.com/security/blog/2018/01/09/understan...

What I find most disappointing is that even processors manufactured TODAY contain these flaws and have performance hits put into the firmware.

This issue is so fundamental to how CPU caches work, that there really is not a true performance-neutral fix.

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