>0.3 MB/s read/write to brand new HDD on W10
>Disk usage 100%
It's a conspiracy.
Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?
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Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do people still expect modern software to run at incredible speeds on hard disk drives? Run old technology with old software. It is ridiculous that consumer hardware is still being sold with crappy 5400 RPM disks in 2021. No, I have no interest in optimising my software for speeds that are 1/10th of my broadband. Unless we're talking archival or huge storage necessities, stop complaining about modern OS or games…
What exactly does "modern software" does that justifies needing the hardware to follow at such a pace?
It runs on more modern hardware.
And has more adware!
Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand this argument, could you explain why modern software cannot run on old hardware? It sounds like it's justifying planned obsolescence.
Can you explain why you expect modern software to run on old hardware first? Should I be surprised that my turn of the millennium PC can't even run Slack? Yes, in absolute terms it's a bit ridiculous, but we're not talking philosophy here, Moore's law is a thing and software has been getting more complex as hardware got faster. Deal with it. How is this news?
There are Slack clients out there, which use a hundreth of the official one and they can run on these old machines, too. The problem aren't more ressource itensive features not possible before, but delivering a services we have for decades with way worse ressource usage because you can.
Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?
#114I can't remember the last time I used Windows search because it's worse than useless - there have been multiple occasions in the past where it can't even find a file in the current folder right in front of my eyes. Nowadays I just use Everything which I think is one of the best piece of software ever.
An important thing that it took me a long time to realize is it doesn't search file names by default, only file contents. To search by name you have to use the 'name:' prefix. This is nonsense, but it's also easy to overcome once you know about it.
Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?
#115Over the past decade, software updates in general have mostly become another form of malware, as software makers care more about extracting money from their users or adding pointless shiny features than actually making their software fast, stable, or better able to serve the user. As a result, my default policy now is "If it ain't broke, NEVER fix it." Install, then disable all updates, forcibly if necessary. On Wind…
In that case, install Debian Stable and stick to Firefox ESR. Nothing will ever change without warning, and you will have the most blissfully boring user experience.
Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?
#116On my current gaming PC (i7-7700) I have installed W10 in 2017 and... no problem whatsoever? SSD, 10s boot. idk how do people end up with all the problems. I'm really curious because there must be an underlying reason
The first time I installed Windows 7 on an SSD it started in less than a second.
Less than 1s boot time. To desktop.
Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?
#117I can't remember the last time I used Windows search because it's worse than useless - there have been multiple occasions in the past where it can't even find a file in the current folder right in front of my eyes. Nowadays I just use Everything which I think is one of the best piece of software ever.
Found Everything back in the Windows 7 days and have never used anything else. It still amazes me that a silly little freeware search outperforms what Windows has. Really goes to show Microsoft's utter contempt (or apathy) toward the user. Technically though, there is still a use for Windows search on the start menu: pulling up Windows components like the Control Panel or Disk Manger quickly.
> Technically though, there is still a use for Windows search on the start menu: pulling up Windows components like the Control Panel or Disk Manger quickly.
And not even that since some times typing "Panel" will not find Control Panel or "Power" not find "Dell Power Manager". I am baffled as to what is the actual algorithm behind this "search". I am quite sure it is not an indexing problem as searching the same items by prefix usually works.
And as usual when it fails to find what you were looking for, you are just one Enter key away from being sent to a browser and Bing. Way to raise your ratings...
Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?
#118Anyone finally willing to admit that w10 is unusable on Hard Drives while Linux and W7 work fine on them?
Totally. Back in 2020, after one update, windows 10 was taking about 5min to boot on a thinkpad, if not more. Had to install a SSD, changed everything. Pretty curious to hear what kernel developer or filesystem developers have to say about this, because it doesn't really make sense to me. I can understand why something would stop working, but not to just become slow. In what world does a system change result in worse…
I've heard that modern Windows does some aggressive disk-caching of driver states or something (?) when you shut down, so that it can quickly load them when you boot again and skip a large part of the booting process. Obviously the intention is to make boot faster, but maybe on an HDD it has the opposite effect?
Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point is, why does OP need to spend money on an SSD (and create e-waste in the process) when an HDD used to be reasonably fast for the same task?
LOL! No, the HDD never was reasonably fast. Our expectations changed. I booted up an old Windows XP box about two years ago before recycling it. It took almost TWO MINUTES to finish booting to the desktop. Some kind of fairly standard 500 GB Western Digital Blue drive. No, I don't know if it had ever been defragmented or had its TEMP files cleared or had old driver modules removed... It was just slow.
I just don't buy it. Sure, SSDs have always been faster—I remember how exciting they were when they were new—but HDDs were always "fine". Not fast, maybe, but nothing ever felt broken. I never waited multiple seconds to open a search box, for example.
And more broadly... have you ever tried running Windows XP in a VM, on modern hardware? Even virtualized, if you feed it anything approaching the resources of a typical 2021 machine, it absolutely flies compared to Windows 10.
Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?
#120I can't remember the last time I used Windows search because it's worse than useless - there have been multiple occasions in the past where it can't even find a file in the current folder right in front of my eyes. Nowadays I just use Everything which I think is one of the best piece of software ever.
An important thing that it took me a long time to realize is it doesn't search file names by default, only file contents. To search by name you have to use the 'name:' prefix. This is nonsense, but it's also easy to overcome once you know about it.
Wow really? I never knew that. Who thought it would be a good idea to have the Explorer search NOT do filename search by default?