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Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Post by sph »

boba7 wrote: post #5

Anyone finally willing to admit that w10 is unusable on Hard Drives while Linux and W7 work fine on them?

Why do people still expect modern software to run at incredible speeds on hard disk drives?

Run old technology with old software. It is ridiculous that consumer hardware is still being sold with crappy 5400 RPM disks in 2021. No, I have no interest in optimising my software for speeds that are 1/10th of my broadband.

Unless we're talking archival or huge storage necessities, stop complaining about modern OS or games running slow on a technology that hasn't realistically been updated in 20 years.

Do you expect Windows 10 to run on a Pentium II with 512MB RAM as well, because some version of Linux does?

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Post by TheCapn »

haunter wrote: post #9

On my current gaming PC (i7-7700) I have installed W10 in 2017 and... no problem whatsoever? SSD, 10s boot. idk how do people end up with all the problems. I'm really curious because there must be an underlying reason

Sometimes it isn't all that simple.

My work laptop runs W10. At some point in the last 3 months or so, an update came in and fucked up Windows Explorer. About 5 times in a work day I need to use Task Manager to reboot Windows Explorer because the following things stop working:

- Cannot type into the start menu (the entire menu goes black. If I backspace anything I typed -despite not being able to see it- it will work again) - I can do this once, and then typing doesn't work at all.

- Taskbar will not hide behind full screen apps, clicking on icons will not bring the app to the forefront, I need to minimize all screens in front of it until I can find it

- Cannot view/change my wifi. The list just sits there blank, refreshing infinitely.

Likely unrelated, but at the same time, Windows randomly stops being able to reach by Default Gateway. I can disable/re-enable wifi and it works, but it tends to happen over and over until i reboot once it starts happening. Usually good for a couple days after a reboot.

Lastly, on shutdown, the computer will bluescreen if I have had my external SSD plugged in at any point.

I haven't tweaked anything Windows Related anywhere. The only excuse I can come up with is one of the dozens of apps I use for my job conflicts with Windows somewhere. There's no useful log info during/after the points of issue. There's nothing in the scans for `sfc`, nothing comes up in the system troubleshooters. At this point I'm looking at doing a full re-install of Windows, but I have so much stuff to move across that I'm mostly dreading it.

My personal computer runs fine though...

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Post by criddell »

smoldesu wrote: post #21
boba7 wrote: post #5

Anyone finally willing to admit that w10 is unusable on Hard Drives while Linux and W7 work fine on them?

Definitely. Booting up Win10 on an HDD can take up to 10 minutes if you have Discord/Steam installed.

Why is that a Windows problem and not a Discord or Steam issue?

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Post by dangus »

boba7 wrote: post #5

Anyone finally willing to admit that w10 is unusable on Hard Drives while Linux and W7 work fine on them?

Windows 7 is 12 years old now. Spinning hard drives are 100% dead in the consumer market.

Why in the world would a modern operating system not optimize for SSDs?

I can’t think of a single reason to use a spinning drive on my computer. Almost every conceivable use case is better relegated to a separate NAS box.

You can get a 1TB PCIe nvme SSD rated at 3100Mbps read speeds for $125. Why would I chip off an order of magnitude of performance to save $40?

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Post by Arainach »

jayd16 wrote: post #43
boba7 wrote: post #5

Anyone finally willing to admit that w10 is unusable on Hard Drives while Linux and W7 work fine on them?

Do people still think to defrag HDDs on windows? I wonder if that's an issue people are seeing.

You haven't needed to manually defragment hard drives in Windows in decades.

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Post by gred »

rkagerer wrote: post #63
reader_mode wrote: post #46

I built a Windows PC after 3 years of using my 15 inch 2018 MBP (which is by far the worst machine I have owned considering the price). Windows has gone to shit, I have visual glitches in the UI using dark mode (even the search box on bottom left doesn't render correctly in dark mode until I hover it). They preinstall some shitty "news" bar right there on the task bar and hide disabling it behind a submenu of a right…

Windows has gone to shit I feel the same way and it makes me sad. I've kept a death-grip on Windows 7 in hopes there would be a Windows 11 one day despite all the naive "last version ever" messaging. Now it's been announced, and I pray it's more than just a paint job. My asks are simple: more stability, better performance, and axed telemetry.

There are dozens of us!

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Post by brudgers »

boba7 wrote: post #5

Anyone finally willing to admit that w10 is unusable on Hard Drives while Linux and W7 work fine on them?

I won't disagree, or agree. If you are running spinning rust rather than an SSD, you are getting exactly what you chose. Just about any use case that justifies spinning rust can be solved with an external platter, thumbdrive, and/or SD card.

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Post by edgeform »

ncann wrote: post #24

I can't remember the last time I used Windows search because it's worse than useless - there have been multiple occasions in the past where it can't even find a file in the current folder right in front of my eyes. Nowadays I just use Everything which I think is one of the best piece of software ever.

FileLocator Pro for me (there's a free personal version). Been on that since Windows 7 quite frankly.

Re: Did Windows 10 slow down with each feature update?

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Post by mhh__ »

swiley wrote: post #70
Ashanmaril wrote: post #54

I built my mom a moderate Windows PC for her accounting work a few years ago. Pretty standard Intel build, no graphics card cause it's not like she needs that. And for the most part it works fine, until every few months it'll slow down to an unusably slow crawl and I'll have to hop into task manager, see what rogue Windows service is bugging out this time, Google it, and find some forum post somewhere telling me what…

IME windows takes more work to administrate than many Linux distros at this point.

It may require less administration but what administration you do have to do takes much longer in my experience - some Linux things are arcane, but much isn't, but when you get to things Microsoft don't really want you to play with you're on your own
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