My ex-employer (a tech consulting company) tried to on-board him & I am assuming that Matz certainly have received offers from many other tech companies too..
Kudos to heroku for making offer that excited Matz.., it is an interesting move by Heroku..
Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
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Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd love to know how Ruby is one of the two most popular web programming languages. I love ruby but from what I see here in NYC, I'd say python is more popular. Are we trading anecdotes here? Or is that two most popular based on a metric from somewhere?
You're reading too much into the words.
You me reading the words right. He said, "two most popular", which they aren't.
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#53Wow, nice move, guys! One of the things I always admired about Linus is that he managed to stay very neutral amongst all the Linux vendors. Back in the dot com days, he could have had pretty much anything he wanted from Redhat, VA Linux, Linuxcare, etc... etc.... but he managed to stay with Transmeta, and then go to the Linux Foundation, which is neutral territory. That's allowed him to focus on Linux without having…
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Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#54Interesting note: With Rasmus Lerdorf working at WePay, this means the creators of the two most presently popular web programming languages, Ruby and PHP, are now working for YC companies. (Which is a teency stretch since Heroku is now SalesForce and hence no longer really a YC company, but we'll count them to keep it interesting.)
I'd love to know how Ruby is one of the two most popular web programming languages. I love ruby but from what I see here in NYC, I'd say python is more popular. Are we trading anecdotes here? Or is that two most popular based on a metric from somewhere?
Yeah, without some numbers it's hard to exclude Python here.
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#55So Heroku now owns Ruby. Not that I think this will lead anywhere particularly bad.
Did Google start owning Python when Guido went to work there? Replace Google by Transmeta and Guido by Linus and you have another earlier example. This kind of thing happens all the time. You can generally count on long-time system designers and implementors to have enough integrity and pride in their creation that they won't succumb to corporate agendas even from their own employers. It's not like they're so desperate they have to suck corporate cock to hang onto a job.
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't Rasmus Lerdorf "hate" programming, though?[1] I don't think he's on the same "level" as Matz regarding their languages and the passion behind them because of this. "There are people who actually like programming. I don't understand why they like programming." [1] http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rasmus_Lerdorf
"I don't like writing, I like having written." - Ernest Hemingway
Is there a source for that Hemingway quote?
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#57That must have been a tough interview...
"So, can you estimate the number of gas stations in Los Angeles?"
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#58Interesting note: With Rasmus Lerdorf working at WePay, this means the creators of the two most presently popular web programming languages, Ruby and PHP, are now working for YC companies. (Which is a teency stretch since Heroku is now SalesForce and hence no longer really a YC company, but we'll count them to keep it interesting.)
I'd love to know how Ruby is one of the two most popular web programming languages. I love ruby but from what I see here in NYC, I'd say python is more popular. Are we trading anecdotes here? Or is that two most popular based on a metric from somewhere?
Based on anecdotal evidence it seems like python is generally much more popular then ruby, being frequently used for just about any general purpose programming (other then some speed sensitive and low level stuff) such as os scripting, application scripting, web programming, number crunching, desktop applications, ect.
While ruby(usually rails) is unfortunately only popular for web programming (probably because python is a very similar language that out-competes it, partially due to specialized libraries and more stable interfaces) where it seems to be more popular then python.
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#59So Heroku now owns Ruby. Not that I think this will lead anywhere particularly bad.
Matz created...and to what I understand still develops MRI (Matz Ruby Interpreter). Rubinius and jRuby are coming on strong from the Engine Yard team.
He probably has more influence on the language then the guys in charge of Rubinius and JRuby(across implementations).