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Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but experts split

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Re: Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but experts split

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Big mistake. It was the 5-6 day week that built modern Japan.

A lot of people are talking about cutting back on days everywhere.

But now, more than ever, is when we need to be working harder to get back to where we were before.

(Of course, my attitude to these things is shaped by being a business owner -- not an employee. So take with that point of view)

Re: Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but experts split

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Will they let/make people to leave the office at "5PM"? and force them to take earned holidays? Might as well do something about nomikai[1] while they are at it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomikai

If not these are great ideas! And compliance can be measured and actioned (turn off lights automatically, lock out logins and emails on holidays).

Re: Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but experts split

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Same government that runs a debt to GDP ratio of 266%

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/15/spain-to-launc... (Spain to launch trial of four-day working week) 120% debt to GDP

For fun, the US is at 127%. Equity, debt, fiat, just rows in a database. If it doesn’t work out, what’s the worst that happens? We go back to few more hours a week? But if it does work, it’s time work evolves further.

Re: Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but experts split

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Big mistake. It was the 5-6 day week that built modern Japan. A lot of people are talking about cutting back on days everywhere. But now, more than ever, is when we need to be working harder to get back to where we were before. (Of course, my attitude to these things is shaped by being a business owner -- not an employee. So take with that point of view)

The objective of work is not "to work", its to be productive. If a 4 day week is more productive than a 5 day, why wouldn't you support it as a business owner?

Re: Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but experts split

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post #3

Will they let/make people to leave the office at "5PM"? and force them to take earned holidays? Might as well do something about nomikai[1] while they are at it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomikai

If not these are great ideas! And compliance can be measured and actioned (turn off lights automatically, lock out logins and emails on holidays).

I feel like anything the Japanese government does that only disincentivizes employees from overwork, without disincentivizing employers from expecting overwork, will only result in employees finding new and creative ways to overwork to appease their employers.

Re: Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but experts split

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Big mistake. It was the 5-6 day week that built modern Japan. A lot of people are talking about cutting back on days everywhere. But now, more than ever, is when we need to be working harder to get back to where we were before. (Of course, my attitude to these things is shaped by being a business owner -- not an employee. So take with that point of view)

Only an owner would feel that way. Without significant equity, what's the point?

The worker gets nothing except less life and more stress. The owner sucks up all the benefit.

Re: Japan's government plans to encourage 4-day workweek, but experts split

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Big mistake. It was the 5-6 day week that built modern Japan. A lot of people are talking about cutting back on days everywhere. But now, more than ever, is when we need to be working harder to get back to where we were before. (Of course, my attitude to these things is shaped by being a business owner -- not an employee. So take with that point of view)

Different times. There was a time you needed hands on deck; you needed many many people doing hard, mechanic work.

This is a time where you need minds on deck. The "knowledge worker" as some places call it. You stretch them too thin and you get less for you money and time.

Is a 4 day week better? I don't know. But I know it's not the same context as it was too years ago.

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