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Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by ketamine__ »

CydeWeys wrote: post #28
ketamine__ wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone rents an Airbnb for a few months in a new location are they now a resident of that new location? If we aren't talking about residency then changing an association (whatever that means) seems arbitrary.

Probably, yeah. You could say it's temporary residency or whatever, but by the several months point this is clearly more than a mere vacation. If you've been living in one place for several months now you more live there than anywhere else.

So three out of twelve months is more than anywhere else? Nomads move every few months.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by cptskippy »

CogitoCogito wrote: post #183
cptskippy wrote: post #177

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Are the penalties worse than what they would face from US authorities? How do you balance that?

That should be up to Paypal EU. The EU should revoke their operating licenses until they come into compliance with EU law.

> PayPal (Europe) S.à r.l. et Cie, S.C.A. is a credit institution (or bank) authorised and supervised by Luxembourg’s financial regulator

So PayPal "EU" is actually just the Luxembourg Bank PayPal LU which is a subsidiary of the US Holdings.

I'm not a lawyer but it seems PayPal LU just facilitates transfer of funds from EU accounts to PayPal Holdings US. Once the funds are in the US, they are subject to US law.

The blocking statue protects EU Operators from having to comply with 3rd party regulations. But since PayPal LU is simply facilitating transfer of money from the EU to your PayPal account which is in the US, PayPal isn't a 3rd party to the transaction and thus has to comply with US sanctions.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by mavhc »

anoncake wrote: post #180
mavhc wrote: post #139

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Again, 99% of people want the default language, annoying them isn't helpful, nor is adding 100 more menu options

99% < 100%. If the Accept-Language header is set correctly reliably enough, why don't websites respect it?

In the beginning it wasn't set and was hard to change, and thus websites offered options within the site. And now I'd bet that many people writing websites don't know it exists, further reducing its usefulness, and probability of being offered as an easy to change option to the user.

See also: client side certificates

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by anoncake »

mavhc wrote: post #193
anoncake wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% < 100%. If the Accept-Language header is set correctly reliably enough, why don't websites respect it?

In the beginning it wasn't set and was hard to change, and thus websites offered options within the site. And now I'd bet that many people writing websites don't know it exists, further reducing its usefulness, and probability of being offered as an easy to change option to the user. See also: client side certificates

That probability depends only on what the browser makers decide to do. And there is no other way to determine the user's preferences.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

Jaygles wrote: post #2

I understand the author's frustration. But until someone finds out how a company that operates globally can satisfy the laws of the countries their customers are located in without associating the accounts with a country, I'm not sure what we can do. > What I find curious is that it says the services are essentially the same between different countries. So, there is no advantage to me as a consumer for anything to ch…

I'm from Italy and moved to Canada. Buying italian books is a nightmare. You can't buy them with your canadian account, but you can make an italian account only if you have an italian address and an italian credit card. So I had to resort to some serious hacks to access some of this ebooks. Horrible.

And there is no legal path, to be clear, your only option is not buying ebooks, but the physical one require me to travel to Italy, which is insane.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by jfrunyon »

developer93 wrote: post #116
jfrunyon wrote: post #26

> There is a disadvantage for me, because the privacy laws in Europe are stronger than Asia, I lose some privacy protection. You don't lose privacy protection by virtue of Google changing your location. You lose privacy protection by not being a resident of the jurisdiction with those laws.

But if a company has you down as being in country x, how do they know to apply the laws from country y? This is a practical rather than legal point

> But if a company has you down as being in country x, how do they know to apply the laws from country y? This is a practical rather than legal point

Not really. If you take Google to court, and Google tells the judge "yo, he was connecting from a Malaysian ISP for like 2 years straight", the judge is probably gonna say "okay, yeah, I can see why you thought he was a resident of Malaysia".

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by jfrunyon »

jmholla wrote: post #188
compiler-guy wrote: post #133

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The argument isn't that the system is perfect. It likely just needs to be good enough. A false positive in attempting to comply with the law really isn't a reason to not try at all.

Then there needs to be an actually working avenue to correct these issues. the rsponse, the system isn't perfect so, sorry, tough luck, is a worse argument in my opinion. In this case Schroeder's valid appeal was denied, which was my point.

The actually working avenue to correct these issues would be to sue them, or file a complaint with the data protection commissioner, or whatever the appropriate legal avenue is in the jurisdiction in which you reside.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by nyuszika7h »

bellyfullofbac wrote: post #83
ajross wrote: post #56

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Localization settings are distinct from location, they're just defaults. You can read Google in German right here in the US, etc... The author was concerned about losing privacy protection offered by Google to people in Germany as required by German law. Which is nonsensical, because German law does nothing to protect you in Maylasia .

Ah, obnoxious geo-IP-based defaults, rather than respecting the browser's "Accept-Language" HTTP header. I remember Google forums there were angry servicemen that got Google in Arabic when they flew to Kuwait...

Apparently Google explicitly ignores "Accept-Language: en" because of some Japanese Internet Explorer users whose browsers mistakenly send that header, or something like that. But I find that argument ridiculous, ignoring everyone's preferences due to some buggy browsers is obnoxious. At least limit it to Japanese IPs.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by CydeWeys »

ketamine__ wrote: post #191
CydeWeys wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably, yeah. You could say it's temporary residency or whatever, but by the several months point this is clearly more than a mere vacation. If you've been living in one place for several months now you more live there than anywhere else.

So three out of twelve months is more than anywhere else? Nomads move every few months.

Then said nomads have several different residencies each year.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by CRConrad »

CydeWeys wrote: post #199
ketamine__ wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So three out of twelve months is more than anywhere else? Nomads move every few months.

Then said nomads have several different residencies each year.

Taxes are usually calculated per year.
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