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Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by ganzuul »

takeda wrote: post #105
graeme wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience on forums, when someone makes a grand contrarian claim (“vaccines are risky”) and then cites a video without explaining why it is relevant or summing it up, the claims indeed have extremely high odds of being crackpot claims.

All those videos are repeating the same thing over and over, with some changes (some that are even contradicting themselves). People who are into it they hear it so many times that it seem so obvious to them, but whenever they try to explain it to someone else themselves they are realizing they have difficulty, because everything is falling apart. They think it's because they aren't the experts so they link to videos…

Not in this case. But the censors don't care.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by r3trohack3r »

inglor_cz wrote: post #153
nicoburns wrote: post #56

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Long covid. I'm 28, fit and healthy, and I had covid that wasn't bad enough to require hospital treatment, but left with me with fatigue, shortness of breath and heart arrythmias that are only just improving 12 months later and are still not back to full fitness.

I am 42, fairly fit and healthy too, and I still suffer from minor heart arrhythmia and an occasional fatigue 6 months after contracting a mild case of covid.

Several folks at my gym have said similar. They’re still at 80% capacity after 6+ months of contracting COVID, and are in their 20s and 30s. Sorry this is happening to you…

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by majgr »

throwkeep wrote: post #108
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #4

I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

There are valid concerns and a difficult risk benefit analysis for some cohorts, I think. What are your thoughts on this? Put yourself in her shoes: "I held off on a COVID vaccine because I wanted to wait for data with positive signals for both pregnancy in the short term and long-run fertility. I’m trying to get pregnant, and those are the two things I care about most. Vaccine data is so politicized that it’s actual…

> The other study that concerns me shows that the vaccine’s lipid nanoparticles— which carry the RNA instructions for the spike protein — move beyond the deltoid muscle they’re injected into and accumulate in other tissues, and seem to accumulate in ovarian tissue preferentially.

This is really nasty, I'm inhaling litres of it per year while vaping.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by xenospn »

causality0 wrote: post #28
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #4

I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

Yeah. I had complete loss of smell and taste, which came back about 90% over the next six weeks. It was fine for a month and then it went wonky. Probably 30% of my "scent spectrum" has now been replaced with the same burnt meat smell/taste. Everything from chocolate to feces to hamburgers now has the same core odor. It really, really sucks.

My social media manager had the exact same reaction. She says it’s getting better very slowly - she can still only stomach eating rice and bread, though. Everything else makes her throw up immediately.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by incrudible »

muststopmyths wrote: post #34
causality0 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I had complete loss of smell and taste, which came back about 90% over the next six weeks. It was fine for a month and then it went wonky. Probably 30% of my "scent spectrum" has now been replaced with the same burnt meat smell/taste. Everything from chocolate to feces to hamburgers now has the same core odor. It really, really sucks.

Did getting vaccinated change anything ? I've heard that vaccinations helped people with long COVID. Hope you recover fully. Edit: since someone asked for citations, here is a CNN link https://us.cnn.com/2021/04/03/health/long-haulers-vaccine-we... I follow the "This week in virology" podcast and they have discussed this extensively as well. Dr Daniel Griffin, cited in the CNN article is a weekly contributor on this…

Fatigue and rapid heartbeat being cured by a vaccine sounds like psychosomatic long COVID. This is a hot button topic that few professionals will bother examining in a critical fashion.

Loss of sense of smell is not psychosomatic. Unfortunately, viral infections can cause sometimes permanent loss.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by papito »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #4

I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

This WP article mentions cases where the "COVID long haulers" have the aftereffects go away after the vaccine, which we don't know why yet, exactly.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/long-haul-covid-vaccin...

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by dukeofdoom »

ch4s3 wrote: post #165
dukeofdoom wrote: post #137

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I don't need the virus to kill anyone. Its part of the natural world. Viruses are literarily part of our genetic code, and may have helped to evolve the placenta. We have evolved along side of them. They're not there to only harm us, they also benefit us. It doesn't matter what I think anyway. There's a limit to how much armour you can wear. There's always a cost. And lets say each vaccine harms you just a tiny bit,…

> And lets say each vaccine harms you just a tiny bit, which they clearly do I don’t think this is supported by evidence at all.

I have scarring from a TB vaccine on my arm the size of a dime. It's certainly not without effect to have an strong immune response to a foreign substance in your body. I'm not even going to mention the preservatives and other substances they put in them.

The strongest hunch that something is off with an animal population, is a low fertility rate. You have negative, declining reproductive rate hovering around 1.6

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by incrudible »

takeda wrote: post #126
xwolfi wrote: post #118

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You're right in a way but I think these people are still a tad wrong. It's not that everyone deny there can be side effects, on pregnancy or otherwise. It's that if nobody does the sacrifice, and everybody has his little thing he wants to protect (you want to get pregnant, I want to keep on working, my wife wants to be there for our kid, our parents have diabetes, etc etc) then nobody gets the vaccine. Get it, whatev…

I was also on the fence about vaccine, but what made me take is realization that there isn't only side effects of vaccine, but also side effects of catching covid. Media made us obsessed about deaths, but majority of people survive and among of them small portion get side effects. From what I remember it was about 1 every 10 people that had some kind of issue that lasted after recovering. Even the blood clots that we…

If the risk of (serious) DVT is lower with the vaccine, why did Norway come to the opposite conclusion and ban AZ?

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by graeme »

pepperberg wrote: post #116
graeme wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience on forums, when someone makes a grand contrarian claim (“vaccines are risky”) and then cites a video without explaining why it is relevant or summing it up, the claims indeed have extremely high odds of being crackpot claims.

Where do you see the "crackpot claims" in this situation? He/she just stated that "inclusive discussion is being suppressed", showing a recently removed YT video. For anyone who can't take 30s to look it up: It is a discussion between 3 individuals (2 of them already fully vaccinated with Moderna) regarding the pandemic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XkRq4PaHqo

They said they’re waiting to get vaccinated. That’s what I was referring to. Then they linked a 3 hour long video without bother to write a short summary of why it might be worth our time. It diverts attention away from an argument within thread and appeals to an indigestible authority which can’t be argued against without spending three hours.

And right away there are signs of bad faith. The comment below you bills Robert Malone as “the inventor of mRNA tech”. I’m sure he had some role but there’s no wikipedia on him, and the title of inventor of mrna usually goes to Katalin Kariko.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Karikó

So either everything is a lie, or Malone’s claims are exaggerated. It seems easier to believe the latter. I searched and I cannot find a single piece evaluating Dr. Malone’s claims. Just conspiracy comments that accept him as inventor with no analysis.

I’ll admit the situation is odd. Malone is clearly real and has many old highly cited papers. What the heck happened between now and the early 2000s, and why is the press devoid of mentions?

https://scholar.google.ca/citations?user=Jf1bApYAAAAJ&hl=en&...

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by graeme »

ganzuul wrote: post #170
pepperberg wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do you see the "crackpot claims" in this situation? He/she just stated that "inclusive discussion is being suppressed", showing a recently removed YT video. For anyone who can't take 30s to look it up: It is a discussion between 3 individuals (2 of them already fully vaccinated with Moderna) regarding the pandemic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XkRq4PaHqo

And one of them is Robert Malone, who invented the mRNA tech that was used to develop the vaccines. All they are trying to do is have a rational, inclusive discussion based on the data they have gathered, but they are not being allowed to do so.

Malone seems a curious case. He clearly has many highly cited papers. But I couldn’t find a single mention of him outside anti-vaccine conspiracy sites.

Do you have any link to any coverage or him and his career? Not from himself or such sources.

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