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“ If you're someone who likes your 7 hours of sleep a day, stay away.” how do people function long-term with so little sleep? I need at least 9 hours to not be a useless husk the next day.

I do 7 but 7.5 is my sweet spot. I pose the opposite: How do so many on this site need so much sleep?

Some of us have always been like this. Others have been doing it for so long that we don’t even know what it feels to be fully rested anymore either. The mental fog of being continuously sleep deprived is all they remember.

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#32

Former AWS engineer here. I worked on a pretty critical product in AWS (big AWS service with lots of traffic) and I can safely say that it's totally up to your manager and pre-existing conditions which make up the job. My manager was great as a person but would always lack in my career-oriented goals (bigger projects, promotions, etc) But what really sucked for me was the pre-existing conditions. Our on-call was pret…

> Code quality was atrocious. We had one enormous Java method (>1000 lines) which would take care of nearly every single request coming into our service... With only about 7-8 unit tests

AWS is pretty reliable for the most part so I am pretty surprise that the code quality is that bad.

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#33

“ If you're someone who likes your 7 hours of sleep a day, stay away.” how do people function long-term with so little sleep? I need at least 9 hours to not be a useless husk the next day.

Used to pull a lot of all-nighters coding in my teens and twenties. Being twice as old now I'll regularly clock 8 hours sleep and doing an all-nighter never crosses my mind.

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#34

“ If you're someone who likes your 7 hours of sleep a day, stay away.” how do people function long-term with so little sleep? I need at least 9 hours to not be a useless husk the next day.

I started today with 4.5 hours of sleep and I’ll do just great with that. Once a week my body grabs 10-14 hours in a single night to “catch up”.

Yeah... that doesn't work how you think it does.. you're body and mind don't "catch up" on sleep. you had 6 terrible sleep days detrimentally effecting your brain and one "good" nights sleep. you do not biologically make up for lost sleep, you just walked around with poor mental function and toxic built-in up neurochemicals then probably masked it all by doing further damage and guzzling down some coffee and caffeine and sugar to force your body to stay awake.

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“ If you're someone who likes your 7 hours of sleep a day, stay away.” how do people function long-term with so little sleep? I need at least 9 hours to not be a useless husk the next day.

People have very different metabolisms and lifestyles. I know people who need less than 5h per night and are completely healthy. I myself feel like shit if I wake up before 9am.

Do they "only" need 5 hours of sleep or do they say they need it? Are they as productive as they could be when fully rested, or will they "sleep when they are dead".

Arianna Huffington also thought she was being greatly productive at no sleep, until her body told her to fuck off and she collapsed in her office from exhaustion.

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#36

Former AWS engineer here. I worked on a pretty critical product in AWS (big AWS service with lots of traffic) and I can safely say that it's totally up to your manager and pre-existing conditions which make up the job. My manager was great as a person but would always lack in my career-oriented goals (bigger projects, promotions, etc) But what really sucked for me was the pre-existing conditions. Our on-call was pret…

> Code quality was atrocious. We had one enormous Java method (>1000 lines) which would take care of nearly every single request coming into our service... With only about 7-8 unit tests AWS is pretty reliable for the most part so I am pretty surprise that the code quality is that bad.

I think one thing I learned from AWS is that there's so much hidden away from the customer. There definitely were (and probably still are) many issues which the customers won't actively experience. Reliability doesn't necessarily equate to good standards and good practice.

But yes, from a customer point of view, AWS is pretty nice.

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“ If you're someone who likes your 7 hours of sleep a day, stay away.” how do people function long-term with so little sleep? I need at least 9 hours to not be a useless husk the next day.

People have very different metabolisms and lifestyles. I know people who need less than 5h per night and are completely healthy. I myself feel like shit if I wake up before 9am.

I can get by on less sleep but I still won’t be much use to anyone working more than a usual hour load. There’s more to life than work and sleep.

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#39

Former AWS engineer here. I worked on a pretty critical product in AWS (big AWS service with lots of traffic) and I can safely say that it's totally up to your manager and pre-existing conditions which make up the job. My manager was great as a person but would always lack in my career-oriented goals (bigger projects, promotions, etc) But what really sucked for me was the pre-existing conditions. Our on-call was pret…

> Code quality was atrocious. We had one enormous Java method (>1000 lines) which would take care of nearly every single request coming into our service... With only about 7-8 unit tests AWS is pretty reliable for the most part so I am pretty surprise that the code quality is that bad.

I think that highly depends on the service. The new App Runner service for instance is a wild ride of buggyness, lack of testing and incorrect documentation.

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#40

Honestly I've been to offices at Amazon in India, and this was not my impression. I would slack Indian coworkers and not hear back for ages even during normal working hours. At the end of the day the reality at Amazon is that your manager dictates your experience. If you join a bad team you will have a miserable time. The best work experiences of my life were also at AWS.

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