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Re: Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career?

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I created a 2x10 gigabit loop directly to the data center core of a regional health system on the consolidated virtualization rack that held ~80% of the applications back in 2012. It also took out the PBX. Thankfully it only took me just about 5 minutes to realize what I had done and run from the office area to the data center (in the same building thankfully) to set it back. I thought for sure at minimum I was at le…

ahaha, good one!

NB: Hard to call the service desk to complain... when there's no PBX to route the call ;-) just joking, yes it was restored :-)

Re: Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not the person you're responding to, but I'm fairly certain that this was one of those so-called "jokes" you may have heard of.

Perhaps, but jokes can convey meaning, and I think this was the case. [Dying is easy / Comedy is hard]

Man, I love Hyperion.

Re: Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career?

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Working for a company that exploits [mostly] kids/teens' attention while being aware of the long term negative psychological effects of such.

We all hate it, but it pays the bills. It's ultimately better to be in this position as a thoughtful person aware of the consequences of your work, since they would just replace you with someone less conscionable otherwise.

I think this is true for important but dangerous things, but I think it's vacuous and false for dangerous and unimportant things.

Re: Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career?

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Landing a first job while holing up with an acquaintance after escaping my birth family, and then trying to move to live by myself without realizing just how screwed-up a lot of my subconscious and worldmodel was (and some of you will have noticed that possibility already after reading “escaping my birth family”). Access to the city and not wanting to be more of a burden on my host were legit motivations, but it turn…

All I can say is: don’t worry about that other person, and I wish you the best.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I've left a job, I've been uncertain and conflicted. every. time. Then, after being in the new job for a short while, I thought, "wow! I should have done this sooner!" Related, I remember a friend telling me a story. It wasn't so much about leaving, but how to leave. She was in a job that was just a mess. Finally one day during a spectacle of mismanagement, she just quit in disgust. She said it was a mista…

Yep, never ever quit with a list of what you did not like. You gain nothing from it.

That's really hard to do, but I agree. It's a bit like, "Don't tweet about some controversial topic when you're angry and drunk".

I do make that list. Alongside the negatives I include positives. If I decide to resign, then the list has served is primary purpose. There is no sense burning bridges or trying to trying to change everyone's priorities to your priorities.

Similar to the list, is the exit interview. One of my regrets is that I gave that list verbally in a rant to a HR member during my exit interview. (Not ranting at the HR person - I was very polite and made it clear that my comments were about my team's management). But I still regret it. You never know who is going to read it, take offence and encounter you later in your career. War stories are for the pub.

Re: Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career?

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Perhaps it's not a huge mistake, but I definitely did not think through the pros and cons of getting a PhD. There have certainly been some benefits (e.g. being able to move from my home country to one I prefer), but the amount of forgone earnings and time working on problems all by myself (where I don't get the advantage of mentorship so much; profs really have checked out on coding since before y2k in the most part) is something I hadn't considered, especially considering how well situated I was having gone to a top school in the bay area for undergrad.

The advice I've learned and that I hope someone could use is this:

only do a PhD if you can't NOT do a PhD, or if you know some specific job that needs it.

Unless your curiosity and desires line up with a great research group, you put yourself in precarious situations, e.g. it's easy to just bounce from one crappy job to another, but trying to go from one advisor to another (especially at a different institution) is incredibly difficult and usually looked upon with suspicion (e.g. whether the original prof is unloading a crappy student).

Don't do a PhD for some external recognition, because it probably won't come unless you are near the top end of consistently top-tier publications every year (e.g. those mad men and women who publish multiple papers at OSDI / SOSP in a given year!). Far more likely you'll find yourself toiling on something to appease your advisor, and in those cases the end result is very underwhelming. Some institutions literally just ask you to hand in your office keys when you turn in your thesis to get your diploma and basically say "thanks for the years have a nice life!".

Re: Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career?

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I worked at a really toxic job at a hedge fund where I let them burn me out in a year and then they fired me. Several mistakes were made: 1) I failed to realize the importance of face time/asses in seats time. I was spending tons of ime working late nights and weekends solving hard problems outside of trading hours where nobody could see the hard work I was putting in. Also, being the only hourly, all of my coworkers…

Did you think that perhaps World of Warcraft kept you sane under those insane working conditions, ina. therapeutic way? Perhaps it was a form of escapism; gaming helped my numb brain find motivation to look for a job later in life

Re: Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career?

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Perhaps it's not a huge mistake, but I definitely did not think through the pros and cons of getting a PhD. There have certainly been some benefits (e.g. being able to move from my home country to one I prefer), but the amount of forgone earnings and time working on problems all by myself (where I don't get the advantage of mentorship so much; profs really have checked out on coding since before y2k in the most part)…

I disagree with your conclusion but think your advice is good to consider. A PhD lets you be an expert in whatever you want for the rest of your life, if you want. Do it for selfish, ego-satisfying reasons (e.g., loving science, wanting to become a real expert in an area) not for the academic career path. Have fun with it, but don't drop out. Get the damn degree. Get it and get on with your life.

Re: Ask HN: What huge mistake did you make early in your career?

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My biggest mistake was while studying in university in 2004-05, i took three electives in AI, such as Neural Networks and Machine Learning. Even though I enjoyed the subjects and did well in them, I was too afraid to major in them and make a career out of it. I got scared by the math but also life took over and i probably didn't see myself having a career in AI. Now 15 years later looking back, it seems such a dumb mistake not pursuing those further.
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