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Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by croes »

cptskippy wrote: post #137
croes wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the EU branch. Global boycott laws, like US ones, are forbidden.

PayPal LU, the bank that makes PayPal EU possible is a Subsidiary of PayPal Holdings Incorporated in the US. > All US persons, including US-incorporated entities, their foreign branches (including non-US entities owned or controlled by a US person that are also subject to US sanctions with respect to certain sanctions programs, such as the US's Iran, Cuba, and North Korea sanctions programs) and employees, are prohib…

Paypal has already lost in german court. And global sanctions are still invalid. Paypal explicitly violates applicable EU law, namely the EU Blocking Regulation. This EU directive was explicitly issued in response to the US embargo against Cuba. It prohibits European companies from complying with the embargo and threatens all those who engage in the US blockade with severe penalties. And PayPal (Europe) S.à r.l. & Cie, S.C.A. is a european company.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by Havoc »

Guidii wrote: post #140
Havoc wrote: post #134

Anybody know where to see this setting. Been clicking around my account for a while and can't see it (Not under personal info or data & personalisation)

Another thread mentioned: https://policies.google.com/terms?authuser= This gave me the TOS matched to the country that Google thinks I'm in. (They're correct, in my case)

That has me under US despite being in the UK. So that seems to be the legal territory you fall under rather than necessarily IP detected country

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by [deleted] »

spiddy wrote: post #149
izacus wrote: post #90

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That's wrong. According to EU, GDPR applies to EU residents and the companies need to protect EU resident privacy no matter which country they hail from.

Doesn't this mean that US customs should comply with GDPR when collecting data from EU citizens? I don't remember being notified of my GDPR rights when entering US last time. I suppose this boils down to enforceability.

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Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by croes »

rsj_hn wrote: post #129
croes wrote: post #81

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Both are german citizens and both are not in the country to which they are now to be assigned. The latter wasn't even in Thailand at all. So I guess they just don't want that Google makes some bullshit associations for them which undermie the GDPR.

So you are saying if a German citizen travels to Mexico, they don't need to obey Mexican law because they are German citizens? Suppose a law in Mexico requires Google to store search queries and make them available to the government for 1 year, or it requires the collection of certain types of personal information, and a law in Germany bans Google from storing search queries or collecting the information. Now a Germa…

A european citizen using a european company's service is under european law.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by squiggleblaz »

mavhc wrote: post #139
anoncake wrote: post #113

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Somewhere more prominent, in the main UI. The user may want to see different pages in different languages (e.g. to avoid garbage translations). Or perhaps explicitly ask the user.

Again, 99% of people want the default language, annoying them isn't helpful, nor is adding 100 more menu options

I think that's true however you slice it. There's lots of possibilities for defining the default: but the language the user has chosen to use for their system is vastly more likely to be right than a best guess.

The other one is: pick to one language and stick to it. If the page I'm reading is in some European language, please show the GDPR messages in that European language not some other language. If it's a French blogspot blog being visited by a user in Germany, show the messages in French! This is almost guaranteed to be 100% reliable. It's not like Google is ignorant of the language of the page. (I can understand not having GDPR messages translated into say Indonesian. But if you do, then again - match the language of the page.)

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by nulbyte »

ajross wrote: post #30

Well... is the author actually in Maylasia or Germany? I mean, that matters. You don't get to personally choose whose laws you're subject to, nor does Google. Having your Google settings set to Germany does nothing to protect you from Maylay law, nor Google for that matter. If you don't want to be subject to the laws of the country you're in[1] you have to move . Google can't help you. [1] Edit: I guess in this circu…

> You don't get to personally choose whose laws you're subject to, nor does Google.

You could move, apply for and gain citizenship in another country, or do other things to make these choices. But contracts are even easier: Just pick a place. That's what a choice of laws provision[0] is for.

[0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice_of_law_clause

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by rsj_hn »

3836293648 wrote: post #148
rsj_hn wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you are saying if a German citizen travels to Mexico, they don't need to obey Mexican law because they are German citizens? Suppose a law in Mexico requires Google to store search queries and make them available to the government for 1 year, or it requires the collection of certain types of personal information, and a law in Germany bans Google from storing search queries or collecting the information. Now a Germa…

You can't go somewhere and expect their laws to not apply to you. You can absolutely go somewhere and still have the laws of your home apply to you, even if they won't be enforced till you get home. A implies B does not mean B implies A

This why I gave the example of two contradictory laws. Only one can apply.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by Rapzid »

ac29 wrote: post #109
croes wrote: post #75

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And how does google satisfy a countries laws if they associate a customer with the wrong country?

In this article, Google wasn't incorrect though - this person just wanted the rules for a country they werent in to apply instead of local rules. Google made a good faith attempt to comply with local rules for this customer based on the (correct) location data they had.

I'm curious if you have sources as to:

A. How long this person was in Malaysia

B. What local laws they may have been in breach of or in jeopardy of breaching(or Google)

C. What specific local rules/laws Google was attempting to comply with in good faith(if any)

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