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Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Can EU citizens living in Malaysia long-term exercise their GDPR rights when Google decides that they reside in Malaysia?

No, because the GDPR doesn't apply to citizens, but to companies. It only applies to companies that target the EU for their services: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo...

That's clever by google. Because if a german citizen uses european google services, he is GDPR protected no matter where he is.

That switch made im a EU citizens living abroad using non-EU services, so no GDPR protection.

Coincidence?

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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If only there was some sort of Accept-Language header.

Don’t get me started! Every time I travel somewhere, Google and a bunch of other web sites just decide on their own to send me web content in the local language. Why?? Just respect the user agent’s Accept-Language header. That’s the whole purpose of it!

Because 99.999% of people don't know what that is.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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I understand the author's frustration. But until someone finds out how a company that operates globally can satisfy the laws of the countries their customers are located in without associating the accounts with a country, I'm not sure what we can do. > What I find curious is that it says the services are essentially the same between different countries. So, there is no advantage to me as a consumer for anything to ch…

BTW companies like Paypal enforced US boycotts on cuba even if the customer is a EU citizens.

"The ticket retailer Proticket, for example, filed a lawsuit against the blocking of its account after offering tickets for the musical "Soy de Cuba" and the concert of a Cuban artist. Although Proticket won its case at the Dortmund Regional Court in spring 2016, Paypal still did not change its approach."

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, because the GDPR doesn't apply to citizens, but to companies. It only applies to companies that target the EU for their services: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo...

That's clever by google. Because if a german citizen uses european google services, he is GDPR protected no matter where he is. That switch made im a EU citizens living abroad using non-EU services, so no GDPR protection. Coincidence?

Again, the GDPR applies to EU residents, not citizens. A German citizen in the US isn't protected by the GDPR.

Technically, it doesn't even apply to citizens, but to countries that the company markets to. The link explains all this.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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post #93
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I understand the author's frustration. But until someone finds out how a company that operates globally can satisfy the laws of the countries their customers are located in without associating the accounts with a country, I'm not sure what we can do. > What I find curious is that it says the services are essentially the same between different countries. So, there is no advantage to me as a consumer for anything to ch…

BTW companies like Paypal enforced US boycotts on cuba even if the customer is a EU citizens. "The ticket retailer Proticket, for example, filed a lawsuit against the blocking of its account after offering tickets for the musical "Soy de Cuba" and the concert of a Cuban artist. Although Proticket won its case at the Dortmund Regional Court in spring 2016, Paypal still did not change its approach."

Doesn't the law block PayPal from being involved in such a transaction?

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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If he lives in Germany, and they mistakenly changed his location to Malaysia, I understand his complaint. But, you can't just say "I want you to treat me as though I lived in a different country than I do, because I prefer their laws on this particular subject". Granted, I wish Google's approach to privacy was better all around, but given that they want to gobble up as much data as possible, and we all know about tha…

Many laws apply to citizens of a country, no matter where they are. Is GDPR applicable to EU citizens regardless of where they happen to be?

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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> you can't just say "I want you to treat me as though I lived in a different country than I do, because I prefer their laws on this particular subject why not ?

Because the laws of the country you are in dictate how Google must treat you as a customer or user, and not your preference of how you'd like them to treat you.

There is a subtlety here, due to Google's scale.

If I sign up with a small company based in, say, Chile, all of my information is likely to be stored there or at least governed by Chile's laws no matter where I am in the world.

The author of this article appears to have engaged with Google on the terms presented in Germany but is accessing Google services from Malaysia. The difference is that Google has a more-substantial presence in Malaysia and is hence more-beholden to Malaysia's laws. Our hero's ability to choose to interact with a first-class service while being treated as a German while abroad has been substantially degraded.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Xoogler here. The way I remember this working is that it is entirely dependent on the methods of payment (MOP) associated with your account. If you remove MOPs from country A, and then 30 days later you add a MOP from country B, your underlying gaia account will have the home country migrated (affects play store, etc). The workaround is to use different accounts, each with MOP from different countries. Pretty sure IP…

Never worked at google, but I use their services and moved country recently. > The workaround is to use different accounts, each with MOP from different countries. Pretty sure IP doesn't matter. Maybe it has changed, because this was not my experience: my methods of payments have all remained the same. It appears to be based on IP, because my transition was delayed compared to family members who moved with me because…

Managing Terms of Service at scale is actually a real problem companies like Google face, so yeah it's entirely possible the country tracking for Terms of Service (TOS) is completely distinct from the MOP country association in Pay & Play.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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If he lives in Germany, and they mistakenly changed his location to Malaysia, I understand his complaint. But, you can't just say "I want you to treat me as though I lived in a different country than I do, because I prefer their laws on this particular subject". Granted, I wish Google's approach to privacy was better all around, but given that they want to gobble up as much data as possible, and we all know about tha…

Many laws apply to citizens of a country, no matter where they are. Is GDPR applicable to EU citizens regardless of where they happen to be?

No, it only applies to residents of the EU: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/
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