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Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2021

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Re: Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2021

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Post by schoolchoice »

P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul wrote: post #14
brandmeyer wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an incentive alignment problem. It is the responsibility of management (state and district admin) to ensure that what is best for the teacher's career is also what is best for student education.

Who's responsibility is it to ensure that what is best for the management (state and district admin) is also what is best for student education? I'm not too familiar with the details of management here, but is it even possible for public schools (and other government operations) to have proper incentives given voters don't care about results? I suppose "school-choice", which happens to be vehemently opposed by Democr…

"School-choice" is great for optimizing local maximums at the expense of just about everyone else. Public education should focus on the lowest common denominators to maximize education per tax dollar. It's not the smart people with lack of opportunity that drag down society, it's the massive amount of undereducated adults that become dangerously suceptable to manipulation.

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Post by nerdponx »

fallingknife wrote: post #25

> Another initiative headed for mandate status is a school policy that no assignment can receive a grade of less than 50% > And my direct supervisor repeatedly demanded that I pace my classes for the benefit of the single student in each section who was struggling the most I don't understand school. Why do they do things like this? Who actually thinks this is a good idea? I've never met anyone who does. How have we g…

I don't get it either. People have learning and thinking differences, we know that and have known it for years. Accommodating those differences is important. Living out a real-life version of Harrison Bergeron is not the only way to do it.

Re: Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2021

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Post by geofft »

P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul wrote: post #22
mediumdeviation wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> American Renaissance (AR or AmRen) is a white supremacist website and former monthly magazine publication founded and edited by Jared Taylor. > The publication promotes pseudoscientific notions "that attempt to demonstrate the intellectual and cultural superiority of whites and publishes articles on the supposed decline of American society because of integrationist social policies." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am…

Does that subtract from the value of the article? The question one might ask is, "did the author write this because they're racist, or are they just sharing their experience and no one else would dare publish it?" Given there are multiple ways of verifying the details, I'd go with "just sharing their experience".

It's p-hacking for prejudice, though.

Let's say that there are two races, orange and blue. Alice is orange and goes to a majority-blue church and gets mistreated because of her race. Bob is blue and goes to a majority-orange church and gets mistreated because of his race.

Alice and Bob are both upset about their experiences. They submit articles to "The American Truth," an orange-supremacist newspaper whose stated mission is to convince orange people that they'll never be happy in a society where blue people are treated as equals. Naturally, they publish Alice's article and not Bob's.

Carol is orange and goes to a different majority-blue church and things are totally fine; Dan is blue and goes to a different majority-orange church and things are also totally fine. Eve, who is orange, and Mallory, who is blue, both go to the same church which has a good mix of folks from the two races, and they love it. "The American Truth" is of course totally uninterested in hearing any of these stories.

If you read "The American Truth," you'll think that there's a problem with blue people being intolerant, and you won't be aware of problems with orange people being intolerant, nor will you be aware that, quite possibly, these are both exceptional cases and most orange people and blue people alike are quite tolerant and welcoming and they tend to get along with each other.

Re: Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2021

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Post by P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul »

hypersoar wrote: post #20
P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul wrote: post #5

Not quite as good as this one: https://www.amren.com/features/2020/05/after-twenty-years-wo... I'm a bit surprised that the Bay Area, one of the wealthiest places in the world, has problems with public schools too. "Public schooling is child abuse" gains more steam every day.

This is a racist screed. The only information available about that author is that they write for the linked site, a well-known white supremacist publication.

Only 2 articles by the author, so I wouldn't strongly associate them with the site.

No information about author, and published on a site like that because such topics are forbidden, so I wouldn't say that's a good tool for judging the truthfulness/quality.

Have to look at the details and see if they align with what is verifiable.

Some of the claims can be verified by video footage that is widely available online. Many people will still dispute those claims.

Re: Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2021

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Post by jessriedel »

pacbard wrote: post #11

> With half the term remaining, teachers of seniors received a notification that they would not be allowed to fail students unless they filled out a form right then and there declaring that the student was certain to receive an F. I think that OP is misconstruing the reasons behind this notification requirement. This notification has to do more with a "cover your ass" policy than lowering expectations for seniors. Th…

> This form is required to be in compliance with the CA ed code as parents have the right to appeal failing grades and not being notified is probably an enough reason for the district to change a failing grade to a passing one in case of a lawsuit/complaint.

If this were the reason for the new forms, why would the school only have teachers fill out the form if the student were guaranteed to fail? I'd think the schools would go the opposite direction and make sure to notify all parents whose kids might fail.

Re: Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2021

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Post by vore »

P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul wrote: post #34
hypersoar wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a racist screed. The only information available about that author is that they write for the linked site, a well-known white supremacist publication.

Only 2 articles by the author, so I wouldn't strongly associate them with the site. No information about author, and published on a site like that because such topics are forbidden, so I wouldn't say that's a good tool for judging the truthfulness/quality. Have to look at the details and see if they align with what is verifiable. Some of the claims can be verified by video footage that is widely available online. Man…

Ignoring the obvious white supremacist dogwhistling completely littered throughout their article, they literally allude to the 14 Words at the end!

> But doing nothing means whites must condemn their own flesh and blood to the nightmare I’ve described — and we have a duty to protect the future for our children.

Re: Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2021

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Post by brianwawok »

fallingknife wrote: post #25

> Another initiative headed for mandate status is a school policy that no assignment can receive a grade of less than 50% > And my direct supervisor repeatedly demanded that I pace my classes for the benefit of the single student in each section who was struggling the most I don't understand school. Why do they do things like this? Who actually thinks this is a good idea? I've never met anyone who does. How have we g…

No child left behind.

It’s been ruled that it’s better that all students get to 20-80% knowledge then some get 100% and some get 0%.

Which is why many people choose to go to private schools if you want to not be limited by this.

Re: Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2021

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Post by fallingknife »

astrange wrote: post #12
P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul wrote: post #5

Not quite as good as this one: https://www.amren.com/features/2020/05/after-twenty-years-wo... I'm a bit surprised that the Bay Area, one of the wealthiest places in the world, has problems with public schools too. "Public schooling is child abuse" gains more steam every day.

California can't fund any of its public schools properly because of Prop 13. None of the wealthy homeowners care about this, because they're all too old to have kids in school.

It's not clear to me how SF, the richest city in the country with the lowest percentage of children, and that charges an income tax on residents, doesn't have hands down the best public schools in the country.

Re: Life as a public school teacher in the San Francisco Bay Area in 2021

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Post by anm89 »

fallingknife wrote: post #25

> Another initiative headed for mandate status is a school policy that no assignment can receive a grade of less than 50% > And my direct supervisor repeatedly demanded that I pace my classes for the benefit of the single student in each section who was struggling the most I don't understand school. Why do they do things like this? Who actually thinks this is a good idea? I've never met anyone who does. How have we g…

No one thinks it's a good idea for the students. They think it's a good idea for their career.
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