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Re: Massachusetts health notifications app installed without users’ knowledge

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Someone should archive a copy for reversing. One comment says it has "permission to utilize all device functions".

One comment also says that it's a Communist conspiracy. Over in reality, though, the only permissions it has are to use the internet and bluetooth: https://hastebin.com/yexoyuluzu.xml

I would imagine you can get location by getting in range of those edison beacons google is pushing.

Re: Massachusetts health notifications app installed without users’ knowledge

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The app is just a fork of the German Corona-Warn-App [1][2]. From what I can tell only the UI was modified, the codebase seems to be still the same. Honestly, pushing the app to users isn’t anything to worry about – and in fact something I’d have loved to see other countries do as well. ________ [1] https://www.coronawarn.app/en/ [2] https://github.com/corona-warn-app

The worrying part is that it was installed without consent.

There’s nothing worrying about that. You get tons of apps installed without consent (including whatever spam your network provider pushes on you).

This app can actually save lives without sacrificing any privacy, pushing it to users is something that has no drawbacks.

The largest trouble for the German version of the app was that not enough people installed it. Choosing to install it automatically isn’t something nefarious under these circumstances.

Re: Massachusetts health notifications app installed without users’ knowledge

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The app is just a fork of the German Corona-Warn-App [1][2]. From what I can tell only the UI was modified, the codebase seems to be still the same. Honestly, pushing the app to users isn’t anything to worry about – and in fact something I’d have loved to see other countries do as well. ________ [1] https://www.coronawarn.app/en/ [2] https://github.com/corona-warn-app

In my country, the government re-skinned the Singaporean open source covid19 app, which appears to be about the same thing as this one.

The government didn't install it in every phone, but they made it mandatory for business-owners to check that you have the app enabled if you want to enter their premises. Everyone needs to eat/shop, so most people were forced to install the app.

Every grocery store has a greeter at the door to check you have the app running, check your temperature, and squirt sanitiser on your hands.

https://www.tracetogether.gov.sg/

Re: Massachusetts health notifications app installed without users’ knowledge

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post #6

The app is just a fork of the German Corona-Warn-App [1][2]. From what I can tell only the UI was modified, the codebase seems to be still the same. Honestly, pushing the app to users isn’t anything to worry about – and in fact something I’d have loved to see other countries do as well. ________ [1] https://www.coronawarn.app/en/ [2] https://github.com/corona-warn-app

Except, the Corona Warn App is the biggest crap that I have ever seen. Yes, the code is open and free and super transparent; morally superior. But what about the effectiveness of this app? Even the German officials do not mention this app since many many many months. The app was criticised from all sides due to lack of effectiveness. Even the freedom-loving large news outlets published their opinions that they would…

> The app was criticised from all sides due to lack of effectiveness.

That’s because not enough users use it. About 10% of Germans have the app installed.

Massachusetts deciding to auto-install the app on every device is the logical conclusion if you consider those statistics.

Re: Massachusetts health notifications app installed without users’ knowledge

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One comment also says that it's a Communist conspiracy. Over in reality, though, the only permissions it has are to use the internet and bluetooth: https://hastebin.com/yexoyuluzu.xml

I would imagine you can get location by getting in range of those edison beacons google is pushing.

They bundled bluetooth and location permissions not long ago. Claimed their users were too ill-informed to know the difference.

Re: Massachusetts health notifications app installed without users’ knowledge

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It would be one thing to get a push notification asking if you wanted to install the app. But pushing this out silently is going to far. It’s the scarier version of the free U2 album.

“… and I still haven’t found what I’m looking for on your phone …”

Re: Massachusetts health notifications app installed without users’ knowledge

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Someone should archive a copy for reversing. One comment says it has "permission to utilize all device functions".

It doesn’t. All it can do is request Google Play Services to enable distributed covid exposure notifications, which in turn means the app itself doesn’t even get bluetooth beacon data.

Your calculator app has more tracking than this.

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