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Troubled teens left traumatised by tough love camps

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Re: Troubled teens left traumatised by tough love camps

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For a country founded on the ideas of individual freedom, the US seems to have an incredible blind spot when it comes ot the rights of children. In any country with any sort of child protection laws worth their name, these would be illegal, as would most forms of physical punishment and emotional neglect that seem to be permitted in the US.

This, x100

Re: Troubled teens left traumatised by tough love camps

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Amazing work. From an internet stranger that's been around others who have been down a similar path. I acknowledge how hard that must be and continues to be. Keep up the good fight.

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Institutionalizing someone without even telling them will completely sever any trust. Who thought this would be a good idea?

In most cases it's parents who are at the end of their rope and feel like they have no other options. I'm not claiming they're necessarily making the right decision. It's just that they've tried everything they know how to do and see it as a last resort.

More like lazy clueless parents.

Re: Troubled teens left traumatised by tough love camps

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For a country founded on the ideas of individual freedom, the US seems to have an incredible blind spot when it comes ot the rights of children. In any country with any sort of child protection laws worth their name, these would be illegal, as would most forms of physical punishment and emotional neglect that seem to be permitted in the US.

Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic flamewar. It destroys this place, and you can express concern for children without that.

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My first thought: wow, the US is crazy, I’m glad they don’t have this in the UK! Then I remembered that I was at a famous boarding school for five years, the most miserable years of my life. Thirty years later I’m still coping with the aftereffects. I think of that place as a form of institutionalised child abuse, and frankly if someone pipebombed it, I would not shed a tear. One simple thing: it wasn’t authoritarian…

Which school? Seems to me uk boarding schools have changed a lot recently, with a lot of emphasis on pastoral care.

I hope so.

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The US is just a ridiculous stupid country with ridiculous norms and believes.

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Re: Troubled teens left traumatised by tough love camps

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"the world is hard so lemme hit you really hard so you learn fast what reality looks like and can fight back" this, is one or another form, goes around A LOT still.

Boomer's as an entire generation are addicted to the idea that all problems are solved by just yelling at people or committing violence against them. Not to say humanity has collectively improved, but the age group which tends to "wonder" if corporal punishment should be brought back has always been very specific when I encounter it.

I was born very late to parents who otherwise would have made me a boomer. I'm pretty sure what you say is correct and caused by the little accepted fact that people were traumatised by the war not anything like this fantasy idealism that they just had Gary Cooper laconic takes and stiff upper lips. My parents gen (born into the great depression) were messed up to silence.

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Once again I read about something in the news and I'm just full of WTF. Unbelievable that this stuff exists. Unbelievable that any parent does this willingly. Unbelievable that a "troubled teen" is even a label of a thing that "needs sorting out". It's just so blindingly obvious that if you teach and expose kids to love and respect and fairness then they'll grow up to love and respect and be fair to people. If you te…

Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic flamewar. It destroys this place, and it's a non sequitur. Mistreatment of children exists in many countries, though no doubt it takes various forms. Letting a story like this one land on and inflame pre-existing prejudices is not the best way to process this information.
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