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TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by radu_floricica »

Spivak wrote: post #31

Honestly, good for them. TikTok is such a breath of fresh air in the social media space -- it's bursting with raw unfiltered creativity, interactions are really genuine and I've actually met now IRL friends on TikTok. Their recommendation engine is scary good at discovery which solves the "I don't know who to follow" problem, the ads are the least intrusive of any social media platform. If you don't "get" TikTok beca…

Women? I haven't seen as many diggers and backhoes in the last 10 years as I've seen in the last 10 days. There's a guy doing lives from the cockpit of heavy forestry equipment. Give the algorythm a chance, it will find your niches.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by pjc50 »

madeofpalk wrote: post #93
MasterScrat wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's super interesting to compare it with Facebook's attempt at the same mechanisms with Instagram Reels: - terribly redundant content (as in, I see multiple times the exact same content from different accounts) - content ripped off and reposted from original creators by spam accounts - complete destruction of the original Instagram app to try to force-feed Reels down your throat TikTok looks so simple when you use i…

Everyone copies the core feed mechanic, but no one actually builds good video editing/creation tools into their app, which is actually why Tiktok took off. If you don't make it easy for your users to post good content, of course you're going to make a boring app.

Exactly. This is a really under estimated part of the value proposition. Look at how many Reels just have the TikTok watermark on.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by quenix »

RGamma wrote: post #141
anthony_romeo wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO I find the platform to be mentally abusive for me. It's a whirlwind of stirring emotions, shocking content, and 'earworms' everywhere, where memes iteratively compound into their own nonsensical language at a faster rate than on other networks. I'm afraid of observing, say, misconceptions and false math tricks passively on the platform, and accidentally letting them burrow into my brain. There isn't enough time f…

I honestly think TikTok might be a ploy to dumb down/analyze the western population. I find it fantastically stupid. Once I saw the aggressive marketing for it in the play store I knew this was something we now have to deal with. And so we do.

Why do you find it “fantastically stupid”?

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by sporedro »

curiousllama wrote: post #35

The big difference between Tik Tok and everything else to me: when I stop scrolling, I feel _good_. On Instagram, I scroll until I hate myself. On Facebook, I used to scroll until I got frustrated. But on Tik Tok - it's a dopamine hit without the hangover.

I agree, I don't get the comparison of Facebook to like YouTube or tiktok they're all different things... While YouTube and google may try to add features similar to Facebook and Facebook may add features similar to them I feel they're not in the same category... There's almost "personal social media" with Facebook and Instagram than just "social media" like tiktok, YouTube, even this site... I guess things like Twitter fall somewhere in the middle.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by MasterScrat »

cdstyh wrote: post #163
Clampower wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I installed tik tok for the first time yesterday. I don’t get how it’s supposed to show me things I like. It’s mostly hot girls doing makeup or teens running from the police and stuff. How do I get it to show me things I like? How does it discover my niche interests.

I have the same issue with medium. My coworker talk about how great it is and he learns so much from it. All I see is clcikbait garbage.

Here's your mistake: you're a couple of years late ;-)

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by MasterScrat »

Clampower wrote: post #159
MasterScrat wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's super interesting to compare it with Facebook's attempt at the same mechanisms with Instagram Reels: - terribly redundant content (as in, I see multiple times the exact same content from different accounts) - content ripped off and reposted from original creators by spam accounts - complete destruction of the original Instagram app to try to force-feed Reels down your throat TikTok looks so simple when you use i…

So I installed tik tok for the first time yesterday. I don’t get how it’s supposed to show me things I like. It’s mostly hot girls doing makeup or teens running from the police and stuff. How do I get it to show me things I like? How does it discover my niche interests.

Just use it for a few days. It learns from which video you watch, skip, or interact with (comment/like/follow)

I never entered any search term and it figured out I'm into AI, startups, tennis, attack on titan...

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by mike00632 »

cdstyh wrote: post #163
Clampower wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I installed tik tok for the first time yesterday. I don’t get how it’s supposed to show me things I like. It’s mostly hot girls doing makeup or teens running from the police and stuff. How do I get it to show me things I like? How does it discover my niche interests.

I have the same issue with medium. My coworker talk about how great it is and he learns so much from it. All I see is clcikbait garbage.

If you don't like the video, flick up to move to the video.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by mike00632 »

hcarvalhoalves wrote: post #94
belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

Having people spend their attention span w/ "fun" content – as opposed to political / critical – seems perfect for a dystopian state.

Do you really think the political content of, say, Facebook is enriching?

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by mike00632 »

dominotw wrote: post #149
belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

i uninstalled it and avoid it all cost because i ended up spending around 14 hrs in the app for the 5 days i had it installed on my phone. Unfortunately now the copy cats like youtube shorts have me hooked and i cannot uninstall youtube because i use it for so many more things.

How are you encountering YouTube shorts? I use YouTube everyday on both my phone and TV but have never seen them. Where are they?

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by RGamma »

quenix wrote: post #183
RGamma wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly think TikTok might be a ploy to dumb down/analyze the western population. I find it fantastically stupid. Once I saw the aggressive marketing for it in the play store I knew this was something we now have to deal with. And so we do.

Why do you find it “fantastically stupid”?

Because it feeds mainly endless insubstantialities to its users and encourages others to produce the same.

Even if not, its programmers or their bosses determine what millions of users will see (and by extension think), which may change arbitrarily.

I know this may be old-school thinking but why can't we reserve the internet to utilities and non-algorithmic spoon-feeding?

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