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TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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More fun is still to come, when the audits come out.

Can this conspiracy stuff stop already? He lost and please move on. We are all tired of this.

Trust but verify. 40% don't trust. More reason to verify.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

the feed algo is very good. I can assure you that there is loads of political content if you want to see it.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

IMO I find the platform to be mentally abusive for me. It's a whirlwind of stirring emotions, shocking content, and 'earworms' everywhere, where memes iteratively compound into their own nonsensical language at a faster rate than on other networks. I'm afraid of observing, say, misconceptions and false math tricks passively on the platform, and accidentally letting them burrow into my brain. There isn't enough time f…

I mean, you're not completely wrong, but if you say "not interested" to a handful of emotion-stirring or shocking things, it's amazing how savvily the algorithm will steer you away from that content and often into more interesting fare.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Can someone who knows this stuff explain how TikTok actually makes money?

Senator, we run ads!

I guess they do organic ads, as I don't recall ever seeing a proper professionally produced ad. I admit I haven't spent much time on it though..

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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It's super interesting to compare it with Facebook's attempt at the same mechanisms with Instagram Reels: - terribly redundant content (as in, I see multiple times the exact same content from different accounts) - content ripped off and reposted from original creators by spam accounts - complete destruction of the original Instagram app to try to force-feed Reels down your throat TikTok looks so simple when you use i…

So I installed tik tok for the first time yesterday. I don’t get how it’s supposed to show me things I like. It’s mostly hot girls doing makeup or teens running from the police and stuff. How do I get it to show me things I like? How does it discover my niche interests.

you can click and hold on the screen to trigger a pop up menu to dislike a video that's not in your interest.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

One feature that amazes me about the algorithm is that it reacts to scrolling habits in what seems to be the minimum possible number of observations. Suppose half of your feed are talking head videos. Stop interacting with them abruptly by scrolling over within 2 seconds and observe how the algorithm gradually reduces their frequency.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

I do not use the product (mainly because I'm too hooked on others...sadly) but one of my biggest gripes on the UX is the lack of video player controlls.

It really grinds my gears to have to watch 90% of a 60 sec video to be able to replay text at the end of something else. Other social apps fail with this as well, e.g. Snapchat, Instagram.

I'm curious how intentional the design decision is, perhaps trying to maximize time spent on the app? Interesting though how FB and Twitter do not follow the design pattern.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

I never understood the Chinese propaganda angle but I agree the app is wonderful. It's the only app that has found a way to touch every one of my emotions.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Senator, we run ads!

I guess they do organic ads, as I don't recall ever seeing a proper professionally produced ad. I admit I haven't spent much time on it though..

It's genuinely interesting you haven't seen any, or perhaps you haven't used the app in the past 6 months?

There's tons of them today, they've been cranking the ad load hard. I see like Nike and the like all the time. It might be they only show ads to users who use regularly.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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There was a story awhile ago that TikTok's curation selected for relatively wealthy people, and I mean 'wealthy' the scale of rich countries. For example, they didn't want something shot in a home that looked impoverished, presumably because it wasn't the experience they wanted for their audience. I don't use TikTok, but a few times I've seen compilations of TikTok on YouTube, and the above description certainly matc…

Humans reflexively want to see beautiful, successful, high status people in rich, successful contexts. You don't need a conspiracy for this - it's the way things naturally flow.

To prevent it you want to mess with "natural" algorythms so that you can teach the people what to want, and that way lies dystopia. The better your intentions the more horrible the result.

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