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TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by cwkoss »

xvector wrote: post #47
Spivak wrote: post #31

Honestly, good for them. TikTok is such a breath of fresh air in the social media space -- it's bursting with raw unfiltered creativity, interactions are really genuine and I've actually met now IRL friends on TikTok. Their recommendation engine is scary good at discovery which solves the "I don't know who to follow" problem, the ads are the least intrusive of any social media platform. If you don't "get" TikTok beca…

TikTok creators are pushing out so much incredible OC. It feels like half of the Reddit front page are just TikTok reposts (with the logo censored out, because Redditors are too cool to admit they like TikTok content.)

I think how the 'human centipede' of content works is really interesting as it has evolved over time. Creators coalese in certain apps and consumers others.

4 chan greentext used to be pretty common on Reddit a decade ago, and 9gag would repost reddit content. Twitter text often gets reposted to tiktok and reddit. Tiktok videos often get reposted to Twitter or Reddit. Heck, many major 'journalism' outfits now regularly include tweets - sometimes thats even the entire content of an article. /r/AmITheAsshole or similar long-form reddit posts are regularly read to make content for youtube or podcasts.

In terms of original amateur-created content, seems the current winners of each medium are:

- short form text: twitter

- long form text: reddit

- short video: tiktok

- long video: youtube? but seems fragile

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by stronglikedan »

DevKoala wrote: post #111

TikTok is genius. I don’t have it installed, but whenever someone links me to it, it is hard to not continue looking at other related clips. I don’t see Facebook ever building something as cool.

> it is hard to not continue looking at other related clips.

I don't have it installed, but when someone links me to a specific clip, it won't let me look at other clips without installing it. What am I doing wrong?

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by cdstyh »

Clampower wrote: post #159
MasterScrat wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's super interesting to compare it with Facebook's attempt at the same mechanisms with Instagram Reels: - terribly redundant content (as in, I see multiple times the exact same content from different accounts) - content ripped off and reposted from original creators by spam accounts - complete destruction of the original Instagram app to try to force-feed Reels down your throat TikTok looks so simple when you use i…

So I installed tik tok for the first time yesterday. I don’t get how it’s supposed to show me things I like. It’s mostly hot girls doing makeup or teens running from the police and stuff. How do I get it to show me things I like? How does it discover my niche interests.

I have the same issue with medium. My coworker talk about how great it is and he learns so much from it. All I see is clcikbait garbage.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by cwkoss »

ryandrake wrote: post #88
Spivak wrote: post #31

Honestly, good for them. TikTok is such a breath of fresh air in the social media space -- it's bursting with raw unfiltered creativity, interactions are really genuine and I've actually met now IRL friends on TikTok. Their recommendation engine is scary good at discovery which solves the "I don't know who to follow" problem, the ads are the least intrusive of any social media platform. If you don't "get" TikTok beca…

I guess I still just don't get it. I'm always shocked at glowing recommendations of TikTok...from HN of all places! Every time it comes up here, I take a few minutes to browse the site, to see if anything changed to justify the praise, and it hasn't. The content may be more lighthearted, but over half of the random feed on the home page I just browsed is fundamentally the same "camera in your own face" narcissism amp…

if you search for topics you're interested and like videos, the recommendation algorithm will shift fast.

I used to never get 3dprinting vids until I searched for it and watched+liked a few, and now I get lots of them.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by pope_meat »

xvector wrote: post #80
karaterobot wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn't there something about how you couldn't find TikTok videos about the Hong Kong protests? Ahh, so the Guardian had some leaked moderation documents[1] implying there was an active moderation keeping them from being viewed. Buzzfeed said they did their own experiments and found no evidence that videos about Hong Kong were being removed[2]. I see no reason why both of those can't be true: if you control the algori…

I think it's much more likely that such videos don't rise to the top because it's not what TikTok's audience cares to engage with. I honestly don't know anyone that actually wants to see political content on TikTok (though, if you seek it out, you will find it.) It's simply not what the platform is for.

That's a very naive perspective, in my opinion.

I wouldn't put it past tech giants in democratic nations not to tweak their algorithms to push their own political agenda, much less tech giants in non democratic nations.

It's too powerful a tool not to abuse, I know it, and you know it too.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by komodo »

Clampower wrote: post #159
MasterScrat wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's super interesting to compare it with Facebook's attempt at the same mechanisms with Instagram Reels: - terribly redundant content (as in, I see multiple times the exact same content from different accounts) - content ripped off and reposted from original creators by spam accounts - complete destruction of the original Instagram app to try to force-feed Reels down your throat TikTok looks so simple when you use i…

So I installed tik tok for the first time yesterday. I don’t get how it’s supposed to show me things I like. It’s mostly hot girls doing makeup or teens running from the police and stuff. How do I get it to show me things I like? How does it discover my niche interests.

You do so by tapping the heart to like the video. If you want to jump-start it use the discover tab and search for something you like.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by IvyMike »

Clampower wrote: post #159
MasterScrat wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's super interesting to compare it with Facebook's attempt at the same mechanisms with Instagram Reels: - terribly redundant content (as in, I see multiple times the exact same content from different accounts) - content ripped off and reposted from original creators by spam accounts - complete destruction of the original Instagram app to try to force-feed Reels down your throat TikTok looks so simple when you use i…

So I installed tik tok for the first time yesterday. I don’t get how it’s supposed to show me things I like. It’s mostly hot girls doing makeup or teens running from the police and stuff. How do I get it to show me things I like? How does it discover my niche interests.

I mean it's mostly a kids dancing app, so that's mostly what you get by default.

Follow Tom Silva, Mr Barricade, Soft Pourn, Woodshopdiaries, Scott Hanselman. This will get you a bunch of interesting content. It might not be what you want, but it's definitely not makeup tutorials.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by codetrotter »

lucasverra wrote: post #137
codetrotter wrote: post #98

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Most so called political content is not useful anyways I don’t think. All I see for the most part is people convinced that their view is the right view, and almost no one seems to be trying to find common ground and work out solutions that everyone can be satisfied with. Instead it’s like they think that any inch you “give” is a loss.

https://polemix.io is a mobile platform that try to find common grounds by allowing "respect" votes that show that you disagree, but still find the idea/content/opinion relevant. Social networks isolate people by only showing them content they agree with. It’s like french kissing yourself in the mirror. We are 9 weeks online and growing with 2k+ users. Would appreciate your intake (invite code LV005). Cheers

Thanks I will check it out

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by spoonjim »

nith3n wrote: post #92
MasterScrat wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's super interesting to compare it with Facebook's attempt at the same mechanisms with Instagram Reels: - terribly redundant content (as in, I see multiple times the exact same content from different accounts) - content ripped off and reposted from original creators by spam accounts - complete destruction of the original Instagram app to try to force-feed Reels down your throat TikTok looks so simple when you use i…

You should also see the pathetic copycat feature YouTube has created called the shorts. Facebook's attempt with short videos and reels is not much better either. Why does every company feel the urge to copy this and also fail so badly at this

YouTube shorts broke my workflow. My son likes to make short videos of himself singing songs or doing funny things and then we watch them on the TV together. YouTube retroactively made all of our videos “shorts” and then says you can’t cast shorts to the TV.
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