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The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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In my case it is my remote garage doors. Sometimes worry that I did not press the button on the remote to close them when I left home so I would drive pass my home again after dropping off the kids at school. Fortunately distance to school/home/freeway to work is within a few minutes of each other. Later installed an IP camera - told the wife it was for home security and not monitoring the garage doors.

distance/door sensor would be probably cheaper (they cost like 5 dollars), though you would need to trust its reliability more than IP camera

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I remember a panel on a news program years ago where the one guest was a psychologist who was treating "untreatable" drug addicts by getting them "hooked" on running or weightlifting or martial arts. They would stop drugs but would instead be doing martial arts for hours a day or running 20 miles every morning. Then he would start treating the addiction personality and causes, but in many cases the patients would jus…

> could only be diagnosed with ADHD if your life was worse than "the norm" Because ADHD is a real situation for some people, and for others it's a way to legally take class-B stimulants. Yes, people really do try their friends' ADHD medication, enjoy it, and then shop around doctors to find someone who will prescribe it. It's called "drug seeking," and doctors do flag patients who do it. This, BTW, is what happens wi…

> This, BTW, is what happens with medical marijuana. There are people who really need it, there are people who think they need it, and then there are people who who tell everyone but their doctor that it's recreational.

Well, yes, and this is how it came to be allowed; the harm from the "preventing recreational use" system was so huge (see yesterday's war on drugs post etc) that it made sense to stop trying to make this distinction. The medical system provides a "fig leaf" which allows the remaining pure-puritans to accept it while at the same time the people who need it for medical use can get it, and nobody has to get their life ruined with jail.

(By "Pure-puritans" I mean those people who are against it because it's recreational, not because of alleged harms or externalities like smoke)

I also think there's a huge grey area of people with chronic pain or unhappiness problems that don't quite reach a diagnosis bucket - or they've not yet learned to speak the words that would get them there, or don't meed the social class critera - whose "drug seeking" behavior might most easily be addressed by just letting them have the drugs. As long as they're not opiates.

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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I personally have problems with doors, and stuff that should be locked. I can never be sure I locked properly. Totally did backtrack unreasonable distances just to check if I had closed the door. It's all fine when it's my door. Worst case scenario, I get robbed. However it's more of a problem when it's someone else's door. Worst case scenario, they get robbed, and that's a different story. Or pets get out... Obvious…

Same for me. A fix I used to have is shifting something unusual about my clothes after checking the doors are locked, like doing up a button I don't normally do up, etc. I can then check that, "yes, button is done up, I locked the door".

But what seems to have cured me for good is having children. I'm just waaaay too tired now to even consider going back to check the door. Screw it, what am I gonna do? Oh dear, baby #1 was sick on me again. Hey, baby #2, don't run off without me! Baby #1, put that hat back on again. No more snacks until it's back on. Baby #2, what did I say about running off? What is it I was worrying about? Can't remember. Goto 1

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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I had a weird tick as a kid where anytime someone said something to me I had to mentally adjust the length of the statement so the number of words was divisible by 5. So for example if you said "Are you going to school today?" I'd add "my good friend, Will" in my mind. It drove me nuts, but I was unable to stop. Then one day it just went away. Still have no idea what that was but it plagued most of my childhood. I re…

I've had a habit for my entire adult life, of sorting the letters of words alphabetically in my head. The longer the word the better. It's even better when the sorted letters turn out to make any sort of repetitive pattern. And I count stairs, unless I specifically override the internal voice and say "1", "1", "1", "1,".... to myself.

Oh no, is counting things bad? I'm always counting things and also counting how long they take.

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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My version of this is turning lights on. I enter a room and immediately turn the lights on, but I'm neither aware of turning them on nor aware of them being on, so I don't turn them off when I leave. Drives my wife crazy.

My wife used to turn off all the lights before we both ran to work, but she would usually start doing it when I was half naked and looking for my keys wallet and phone. I replaced everything with LEDs and stressed that the price of leaving the lights on was less than being 2 minutes later to work and absolutely nothing compared to getting fired for being late.

Lights on timers/motion - and internet enabled. Can check and control them from anywhere

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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I personally have problems with doors, and stuff that should be locked. I can never be sure I locked properly. Totally did backtrack unreasonable distances just to check if I had closed the door. It's all fine when it's my door. Worst case scenario, I get robbed. However it's more of a problem when it's someone else's door. Worst case scenario, they get robbed, and that's a different story. Or pets get out... Obvious…

I really enjoy reading about folks sharing their OCD stories. This one resonated with me because it's one of my obsessions.

I will say that after going through CBT and becoming an amature expert on OCD as a sufferer, a therapist would argue that this behavior of checking your photo is a form of compulsion. It works for dam sure but you're never really going to be able to go to sleep without some form of checking when the obsessive thoughts start.

Anyone who has gone through treatment knows the ultimate goal is to weaken the reaction of the obsessive thoughts which is what exposure therapy is all about.

Just a quick story, my laddering technique for achieving peace was to eventually get to a comfort level where I can sleep with the door wide open all night. Well, I didn't get that far but I did sleep with all my doors unlocked for a couple nights.

Lastly, I can safely say that I now check all my doors once these days with the exception when I'm stressed at work. I'll check them once before going to bed and if I brush my teeth between checking the door and actually walking to bed, I might check them once more. But this is a seldom occurrence these days.

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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There's a very helpful method for being confident that you did something right, and while it may not be enough for people with compulsive disorders, it's great for many situations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_and_calling I think it works by recruiting more of your body & brain to the task of attending to something. Maybe the anxious could video themselves doing it, and watch it back later.

I have experienced a (partial) failure of this. On the takeoff roll, there’s a call out for “airspeed alive”. One day after leaving the airplane parked outside for a long weekend, I dutifully looked at a dead airspeed indicator and called out “airspeed alive” followed shortly by realizing the mistake and aborting the takeoff, but there’s a danger of looking and “seeing” what’s expected but not actually there.

This reminds me of some of my… I guess I should call them “non-conscious automated vocalisations”.

For a while I used to greet people with the greeting they’ve just given me: they say “hello”, I also say “hello”, they say “good morning”, I say “good morning”. Fine until my sister greeted me with “happy birthday”, though I did at least notice and stop myself after one syllable.

More seriously was when I was following a different automated greeting. I was in hospital with testicular torsion and the doctor asked “how are you?” — my polite British “fine thanks how are you?” was entirely out of my lips before I realised that this answer was not there one I wished to give and I had to add “well expect for this…”

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have experienced a (partial) failure of this. On the takeoff roll, there’s a call out for “airspeed alive”. One day after leaving the airplane parked outside for a long weekend, I dutifully looked at a dead airspeed indicator and called out “airspeed alive” followed shortly by realizing the mistake and aborting the takeoff, but there’s a danger of looking and “seeing” what’s expected but not actually there.

This reminds me of some of my… I guess I should call them “non-conscious automated vocalisations”. For a while I used to greet people with the greeting they’ve just given me: they say “hello”, I also say “hello”, they say “good morning”, I say “good morning”. Fine until my sister greeted me with “happy birthday”, though I did at least notice and stop myself after one syllable. More seriously was when I was following…

Waiter: Enjoy your meal.

Me: You too.

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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I had a weird tick as a kid where anytime someone said something to me I had to mentally adjust the length of the statement so the number of words was divisible by 5. So for example if you said "Are you going to school today?" I'd add "my good friend, Will" in my mind. It drove me nuts, but I was unable to stop. Then one day it just went away. Still have no idea what that was but it plagued most of my childhood. I re…

Did that seem to have a mathematical basis... a form of counting and grouping... or did it seem to have a rhythmic basis, like you needed a 'dah dah dah dah DAH' pattern in speech?

yes

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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This is a great frickin story. I have pretty severe OCD and I treat myself this way. You basically can't have mercy with your own stupid terrors about objects if you have OCD. Taking the hair drier with you is brilliant.

What the other shrinks should have noticed is that this is taking the power of agency away from the object and returning it to the owner. OCD people like me follow a certain thought process:

1. I need to do this [thing] or [something] bad will happen. 2. Nothing bad happened. I'm not wounded or dead. That was because I did [thing]. 3. If I hadn't switched the blender on and off 14 times today before I walked out the house, I might have walked out 30 seconds earlier and been hit by a bus. Therefore even as irrational as it seems, the wasted time on the blender was enough to keep me in the right timeline where I'm still alive and breathing. 4. Therefore whenever I get an irrational impulse to do something that might delay me, I should do it, because that's what keeps me on the timeline where I'm not hit by a bus.

Just because none of this can be cured by someone speaking rationally to you and telling you you're insane, doesn't mean that it can or should be cured by mood-altering chemicals. The only answer for me has been demonstration to myself, i.e., I didn't slam the door six times but I didn't get cancer. etc. However, the biggest motivator was my ex-gf who used to wake up when I was folding my pants over and over, and go, WILL YOU FRIGGIN LAY DOWN?

Last thought here. Drawing connections between what happens and what happened prior is a fine art, and one that's richly rewarded in the right corners of hackerdom. There's no shortage of people who lack the ability to see the most basic cause/effect and are willing to pay you to tease those things out of the data, or out of your ass. I consider OCD to be an asset, not a fault, as long as it can be channeled properly. It may have saved my life. BUT yeah about stupid shit like hair driers, just show people the obvious. Being OCD doesn't mean you're an idiot, and if you swallow the pill that says "I won't die because X" you open more doors to other rational thoughts. OCD is just your brain stuck in an if/then pattern. Several elses may cure a big chunk of it.

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